He has invested millions, he deserves better, as do the fans. Better off without ? Well we would be in administration again without his cash, without any players to sell to bail us out this time.
I'm sure all the transfers and massive contracts he's sanctioned wouldn't help the matter if things really went to pot. I'm just suggesting that rather than seeing TF as some sort of victim who, despite all his millions (poor guy - proportionally, I'd imagine it's a similar, if not greater, strain on the supporters' finances - including my own - to follow the Rangers that for TF to lose money on BZ's transfer fee), doesn't deserve to be put in this sort of situation we also recognise that the current direction of the Club in terms of transfers and so forth is, in part, the responsibility of the Cub owner who seems not to have learned from the PL debacle and the sort of player that arrived under the previous TF appointed manager. Again, just to make it clear I haven't, despite Staines' hyserical response, suggested we oust TF.
Calm down, calm down. The simple truth of the matter is that they went out with the aim of not getting injured and without a care as to whether they won or lost. They probably thought Everton would do the same. "Too much to risk for a meaningless competition." If that was his belief in in the first place, Redknapp got it hopelessly wrong. Can someone remind that half wit who the manager was when Wigan won the Cup last season while fighting against relegation? I'm longing to hear his explanation for the team selection and precisely who it was that he claims to have rested apart from Dunne. That was a huge gamble out there which could have so easily backfired had one of our indispensable players slipped, fallen awkwardly, had a clash of heads with an opponent or just tweaked their hamstrings again. As we know some of our number are a little delicate in that department. And for what precisely? So that we could bow out again without so much as a whimper. As for Phil Beard? I think the only honest response from the owners and our manager would be to refund the money wasted by those of our fans who went to Everton in the sincere but misguided belief that their team would at least have the decency to make an effort. It frankly does not bother me because been there and seen it every year over the last 15-20 seasons. I doubt whether we will approach the Ipswich game in the same way. Of course there is the more conspiratorial analysis or two. "Look Tony. You see the ****e I have to work with? For Gawd's sake give me some money to play with" Or try this one for size. "Julio is a world class goalie. To you only ten million and you can have him all gift wrapped from us in time for the World Cup Finals. Did you see those saves he made. He kept us in touching distance' cos we were under the cosh a bit. he's a lovely boy. I've never had a moment's trouble with him. Some of the saves he made were world class. Cos that's what he is.. Roll up Roll up."
Husky, the problem seems to be that having finally gotten a Chairman that simply does what we all wanted from a Chairman for years (I think all of us wanted it) and it doesn't work out, we then have a situation where we don't know where to turn to start throwing blame. The only thing I ever wanted from an owner/Chairman was to back the Manager 100% and leave the footballing side of things up to him. Fat Thony has done this thoroughly with three Managers since he's come in, pumping millions into the Club in the process, only for it to crumble to dust each time. The bloke must be wondering if he's cursed or summat. I find it very difficult to have a go at a guy who's only doing what I only ever wanted an owner to do. Yes he's been very naive but fu*k me, the bloke put a bit of faith in his Managers and they shafted him. He can hardly be strung up for that?
Of course he has. The club is on the up - new ground, new training facilities, likely return to the PL. Losing to Everton away is nothing to worry about in the long run. Reading what you have written later, I have sympathy for all Rs who are disappointed or annoyed at losing. TF, as far as I am concerned, is also a QPR supporter. Don't you think?
I agree. My thoughts from someone on the outside looking in, our team had much PL experience ( ten players or so ) but obviously lacked the desire to get a result. My real concerns are whether Harry has lost some of that charm of his with the players and are there more deep seated issues surfacing from the team. We have had some pretty poor results of late or could it be that we are just in a common, everyday type of losing streak for which we shouldn't really be bother about and Santa will rectify. Oh Sh_t ! ........Xmas is long gone. Back to reality I guess.
You're right, losing today against an Everton side who are having their best season in years is nothing to be ashamed of, although the apparent manner if the defeat should perhaps be of concern. Perhaps TF is a Rangers supporter. My main concern, and the point I was trying to make, is the (apparent) lack of a sustainable business model in terms of first team affairs - we can't keep repeating the policies of the last few seasons in regards of transfers and contracts. So, from that side of things I do hold TF partially responsible and am far from sympathic towards him. This, of course, is far from saying that I want him out of the Club which is how some other posters have attempted to represent my views.
With the greatest respect how do you or any of us know whether his business plan is sustainable. TF is the best thing that's happened to this club for a long time and seems to be trying to build something ( training ground etc ). For the record he does take responsibility as he is the one writing the cheques!
I've only just read through this thread and cannot believe that some posters actually thought we had a chance at Goodison with our squad, confirms what I've always known about some peoples football knowledge #seriouslydeluded I'll be taking a lot of future posts with a pinch of salt from now on
If you look down of our near FA cup history this was a pretty normal result. Yesterday it was Everton who crashed and destroyed us hard but so what? We cant afford to concentrate to FA cup because Premier League is our top priority. Anyway Everton is very strong team nowadays and those reserve men really played their skin off. Im much more worried about next saturday and Ipswich Town. If they beat us 3-0 or more then its time to panic. About that Velavic i have to say he is never gonna come to play in championship. He is too good to that level.
TF has appointed two of the worst managers we've ever had when you consider the world class wages we are paying them and the backing they have been given. Redknapp is the 26th best paid manager in the world, he is getting more than the man who won the world cup. His football decisions have been disasterous, that cannot be denied.
True. Just came to me in posting on another thread that we beat Everton up there with Colin in our 2nd PL game after promotion - the team that day was the bare bones only of the one that had got us up, but it seems like that was a much better performance than today's. Harry better mean what he said - today better be a wake up call, to him and his squad.
I know, as do many others, that signing players who are 30+ on loan deals and short-term contracts, complimented by extravagent wages, isn't a sustainable or stable long-term plan from a football perspective - that much should be evident from anyone who has paid the least bit of interest in us over the past 3 seasons.
There has been a definite change in policy from the board since MH's debacle. I can see that lessons have been learnt by this board (hence the few grumbles from HR). TF and the board can't swing this tanker (they've created) overnight, but I sense they do have a longer term perspective now and they are laying down their logic and letting the manager make decisions and mange the team. The tanker will swing round, it's half way there. Second half to come, and a few new crew members on board this January to help.
