Usual post race article from Brundle. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13754746.stm Interesting that he feels Hamilton is not to blame for the Button crash, not as much as he is being blamed for it at least. He echoes the views of most on here regarding Schumacher as well, vintage stuff
I don't feel the weekend is complete until I've read Brundle and Mark Hughes's take on events, which should be up tomorrow.
Hmm I do not really agree with Brundle over the Hamilton/Button and Alonso/Button incidents. For the Hamilton incident I think Button did see Hamilton because of the spray and where Hamilton was at the time, Button then just stuck to the racing line, I do propotion that much blame to Hamilton either I think it was just unfortunate, however I still think it was a bit of poor judgement from Hamilton to go for the narrowing gap, he should of gone to the right of Button. In the Alonso incident I believe they were side by side going into the corner with Button on the inside line on tyres that were up to temperature and Alonso just seemed unwilling to concede he lost the corner, but again it was just racing in tough conditions.
I said yesterday that the more I saw the incident between Hamilton and Button, the less wrong Hamilton looked (although he certainly wasn't blameless). I stand by that view.
If vettel's to blame for the same move on Webber, same thing applies to Lewis in this regard. It's never a clear cut 100% their fault, I'll accept that, but he didn't do himself any favours trying to overtake Button on the grass.
For me that's the worst Brundle column I've read so far. Quite apart from not appearing to have spotted that Button was ahead of (not alongside) Alonso as they hit the braking zone, he made some ludicrous comment that a driver should not be penalised for barging into another driver if he loses his nose because he's already paid the price. I know what he was trying to say - that it was a racing incident and if the stewards can let Hamilton off because he's out of the race then why couldn't they let di Resta off because he had to make an extra pit stop - but to word it in the way he did was complete brainfade IMO.
Guys come on... Jenson saw Lewis before they made contact and Lewis had so much more speed and went for the inside and Button didnt see and turned into the racing line. Racing incident. I think your being very unfair if you say it was Hamilton`s Fault. It was 50-50.
I'll glady accept 50-50 blame PMC, regading the teammate clash. It would be wrong to kick a man while his already down and bruised regarding the last race. But from a Vettel's fan point of view, Lewis should go through the same problem now which vettel endured last season when he hit Webber and Button for stupid overtakes. If vettel was getting labeled a "crash kid" by Whitmarsh, I'll have no sympathy for this season with Lewis. This will follow him through until the end of the season... From a non biased point of view I hope he comes back which I said after Monaco. Hopefully he'll have a good race next time and carry on forward ready for Silverstone, because lets be honest.....he's at a very low point and needs a big pickup from his homecrowd.
This..........I did say "could we really go through another Monaco".........and we did, just barely lol
You really hold a grudge after that crash kid comment don't you silver arrow. I personally think the criticism Vettel rightly received mid way through last year has improved him and with the experience of those incidents he has become the dominant force. Whitmarsh has been praising Vettel recently because he has improved.
Why do you (and others) persist in having that signature on every single post you make? Why don't you just have it on your own page and then restrict your posts to the relevant point you want to make? Why clutter up the screen with the same thing over and over again. I'm not having a pop just at you, others do it also. I just do not understand why you do it.
The racing line naturally turned in there was the point i think. So Button turned in there in the same way that Schumacher had and therefore did not do very much wrong.
I'm always going to be biased to vettel, that's just going to be fact until the day he retires, sometimes I just want to be biased, it gives me less to type about rather than being the middle man all the time. I just want to make sure everybody knows that i'm not always going to just think of vettel will win every race and eveything around him is just a slow pile of crap. I've had times when people ask me, "is that really your opinion on a driver?.... or are you just being biased?" I would like to portray myself as the middle man full time, but that has only got me sucked into things that would drag out for longer which would take time out of my life. @JC You bet your sweet Roman ass I still got a chip on my shoulder regarding Whitmarsh. Yes vettel made himself look like a plank with the stunts he did and people are right to debate about it. But I have this major problem of "mindgames" being played, especially when the kid hasn't even really done anything hostile towards them, no verbal war just him becoming a target for abuse. Is it because he's German? Don't worry JC, I heard Whitmarsh praise Vettel after Sunday and maybe you are right that his comments made Vettel look at himself and change his approach towards racing. But maybe this should be the reason why Lewis shouldn't escape the debate, somethings not working with his racecraft, maybe he does have to take a step back and think a second time before making a move. Yes Lauda is going too full on, but maybe he's right, would Lewis ever forgive himself if he ever "Zues forbid" killed somebody by accident for an overambitious overtake causing mass media meltdown demanding his head. Yes motorsport is dangerous I've known that for nearly 20 years, but I say don't piss on the years of hard work done by previous greats who never want to see the current drivers go through the same horror they did, it's disrespectful of what they're trying to do. If they could promise 110% safety they wouldn't need rules and just let them do whatever. I followed a different history lesson when getting into F1, I didn't read up about the Senna's or the Prost battles, for me it was the Fangio, Clark and Stewart era where there was an amount of respect for each others life and just wanted a safe clean race. I could rant about this for hours but yet again I don't want to be the middle man, I want to be short, and quick to the point like a biased person and just have to turn on a switch to get a real "unbiased" opinion across.
I'm not bothered about your unbiased bias towards Vettel -I just think that having a signature is a waste of space. You must post the same thing 15 times a day and get away with it. On other forums it would be considered spam. What is the ruling on signatures? Can I create one that fills 15 pages and post it every time I post "erm I agree" or "erm I disagree" or "erm I'm not sure" Perhaps you doubt that Vettel is any good and you are trying to convince yourself.
Nope! no need to convince myself, vettel has talents that people don't really see as obivious as Lewis'. Where I can say Vettel is yet to peak and is still improving year after year Lewis looks to have plateaud and even is looking weaker this year. Where I can say in confidence that vettel would spend every waking hour in the simulator improving, Lewis would rather do a photo shoot with his girlfriend. I would rate Alonso the best driver on the whole grid, yet in respect of different areas Vettel and Lewis are equal, so what if he doesn't overtake much, he seems to nail it 99% of the time in qualifying and will most likely dictate the whole race, he has a a very senior head on his shoulders considering his age. If people want me to get rid of my sigs I don't mind, it's just opinions from other people, not a personal attack on anybody.
