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OMT: Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by THFC6061, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    Lennnon is such a reliable performer and one that really makes a difference. One of the first names on the team sheet for me.
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    The positional side is probably where he's still got the mind of a LW at times. I remember the commentator saying near the 85 minute mark that Sherwood was telling us to sit deep, Rose bombed forward and got caught out by a Utd counter and then apologised to Sherwood for being out of position. Hopefully that'll improve with experience, he's still a young lad who's having his first full season with us being first choice at his adopted position. It's ok to bomb forward against the mid-table/ bottom half sides but doing so against Utd at Old Trafford needs to be done with great caution and timing.
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Lucky for Man Utd, they could rely on Match of the Day to be ridiculously slanted in their coverage.
    Rooney's dive and subsequent booking? Not shown.
    Rooney chasing after Webb at the final whistle? Not shown.
    Wellbeck's dive? The commentator said it should've been a penalty.
    Young's dive? The commentator and pundits said it should've been a penalty and sending off.
    Januzaj's dive? The pundits said it should've been a booking.
     
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  4. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    "Lucky for Man Utd, they could rely on Match of the Day to be ridiculously slanted in their coverage."

    Lucky for us, MoTD coverage doesn't change the 3 pts we picked up.
     
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    Inda Well-Known Member

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    MoTD was disgusting. It reminded me of the reasons I stopped watching it.
     
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  6. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    MoTD, whatever.

    We are honest enough to have said that Man Utd provided sufficient Webb 'moments'
    yesterday and we expected them to be given as usual. Young in particular may now be
    suffering a bit of "boy who cried wolf" now, with refs (yes even Webb) putting him under
    much more scrutiny as he has form.

    As LDL said, Man Utd were much like Spurs at home.
    Reams of "possession" etc, but too poor in the end product.
     
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  7. Spurm

    Spurm Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't give 2 hoots about what MOTD think, but even if they were correct i would still say "about ****ing time Utd got a taste of that particular medicine, they've got a good few years more of it before it evens out"
     
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  8. PowerSpurs

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    Yes - if we are playing 442 because he's a good combination of attacker and defender which is ideal in that formation.

    Not really if we are playing 4231 or 433 when his main weakness (too few goals) means that he is not so well suited.
     
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  9. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    I would say ahh! we have Lennon he's good let's play him in a position that works. Rather like Sherwood does and unlike AVB did.


    Simple game <ok>
     
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  10. PowerSpurs

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    He's not that good that we should design our whole formation around him. 442 is picking up the points but we've been very open at the back and that is with Lennon there to help. Not sure who plays there when he gets injured: I like our formation to be injury proof because its bad enough losing players without expecting the others to play in a different formation too.

    Despite what people claim about AVB he mostly played people in the right place. Never put Eriksen on the left wing!
     
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  11. It's the same with all the media.

    You really come to understand just how slanted it is toward United and 'Pool when a team like Spurs dares to beat them, especially if it is with the help of a fortuitous refereeing decision, or two.

    The likes of Lawro and Hansen are the worst on the BBC. On Talk5hite there are quite a few: Saggers, Collymore, both Keyes and Gray, Mickey Dim, Durham, among several others. They all seem to harbour an anti-Spurs agenda whilst sucking up to United and 'Pool. I swear, that Mark Saggers must be regularly rubbing himself raw under the table during his show, with 'Pool remaining in the top 4 for half a season.
     
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  12. O.Spurcat

    O.Spurcat Well-Known Member

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    I used to play in the same team as Mark Saggers. Take it from me, the guy is an utter twat.
     
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  13. NSIS

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    TBH, I thought the Young incident was a penalty. I was amazed Webb didn't give it. As has been said, his reputation probably cost him this time. What was going through Lloris' head, I have no idea!..
     
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  14. SpursDisciple

    SpursDisciple Booking: Mod abuse - overturned on appeal Forum Moderator

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    But he fell out big time with Alan Green - so can't be all bad?
     
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  15. <laugh>
    He certainly sounds it!

    The man argues with himself! It's absolutely hilarious! Typically, he'll pose a question - one that no reasonably intelligent, half-switched on person would even think about arguing over - and then he'll get all shirty about the possible responses he might get (but which he rarely gets because the listening public isn't quite that ****-witted). The man is an imbecile and a clown.
     
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  16. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    Apart from;

    Naughton
    Townsend,
    Chadli,
    Lennon,
    Holtby,
    Vertonghen,
     
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  17. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    He obviously didn't read enough of my posts on here, then. Probably why he got the sack... <whistle>
    From the build up to the West Brom game:

    Got a goal and an assist, but he needs to work on his tracking back, especially against the likes of Man Utd.
     
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  18. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Difference with AVB and Sherwood playing players out of position is that Sherwood gives the players more freedom to "do what they want" so to speak, especially in attacking positions. Eriksen was on the team sheet as LM yesterday yet his cross for Ade's goal was over on the right. AVB made players play in different positions but kept it very rigid and defensive, meaning that not only was it hard for someone adapting to a different position but also made harder by the fact they seemed unable drift about a bit to find space and do something.

    Our attacking players, when on form, are some of the best in Europe and that alone convinces me that our system should be set up to attack - which so far Tim seems to be doing. AVB put a bunch of top attacking players into a very cautions style of play which just did not suite them one bit.
     
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  19. Boss

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    Last season Lennon played some of the best football of his career, especially early season, as did Defoe, so Avb wasn't all bad for such players, and if you look back at some of our performances when Bale wasn't in great form, Lennon and Defoe where playing superbly, so Avb did know how to fit them into his system but what happened overtime is the system become more important then what was best for the squad and eventually nuked all the creativity from the team.

    Be interesting to see what Avb does in his next job, and if he carries on the same way or if he has learnt to be more flexible.
     
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  20. Spurm

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    i was pro-AVB at the beginning, but the football wore me down eventually and the hammerings were the straw. Sherwood's team is more like it, we might not get top 4, but we'll score some goals and get entertained. Yippee
     
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