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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Stuart Blampey, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    New Year same old ****..............
     
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  2. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    Well - I, for one, feel sorry for you, Happy.

    But each to his own......<ok>
     
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  3. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    I think you're missing out the potential legal challenge which ever way the decision goes.
     
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  4. King Curtis

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    At least if he shed some light on his business plan, he might be able to bring some clarity over the benefits the name change will bring. When people are questioning your business strategies, it might seem sensible to stand up for your stance and explain just why it will work, rather than throwing your toys out the pram because you aren't getting your own way. In my opinion, Allam's lack of willingness to sensibly discuss his business plan ahead of 'I can do what I want' seriously weakens one's ability to take his plan seriously.

    As for the press, you are quite correct. Difference is, those you mention largely answer their critics with their performances on the field/dugout. Allam seems to stumble from one clanger to the next and his attitude towards others really doesn't help the press warm to him or his idea. Every article in the world obviously hasn't condemned the name change, but largely it seems that the press are in favour of the name change not going ahead for the reasons that many on here seem to mention.
     
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  5. FILEYseadog

    FILEYseadog Well-Known Member

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    You will still support Hull Tigers obi if the name change happens . Won't you ?

    Just as most people will.
     
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  6. Calamty Jane

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    So if the name change goes ahead and IF it turns out we have a billionaire buyer who was born in the year of the tiger-would CTWD still try to challenge the name change?
    Before too much beating of chests and kissing of badges might I suggest we all take a few minutes to re read the accounts of Bolton Wanderers.
     
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  7. Calamty Jane

    Calamty Jane Well-Known Member

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    PS-Happy New Year Filey
     
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  8. Party Hull!

    Party Hull! Well-Known Member

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    Clearly Hull Tigers isn't going to produce a billionaire buyer. It's not for that reason anyway, it's the Council rubbish. As anyone sensible knows.

    Also, I feel like I need to punch myself in the face as I accidentally 'liked' your post and I don't think I can reverse it. To clarify, I don't like it at all.
     
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  9. FILEYseadog

    FILEYseadog Well-Known Member

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    Have a great 2014 Mr Park....may every day be a good one.
     
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  10. Calamty Jane

    Calamty Jane Well-Known Member

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    Well that's me telt.I thought oriental business men were very interested in brands/colours to promote them and their business empires.Still thanks for putting me right on that one
     
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  11. DMD

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    Knackers!! I just hovered over yours to see if there was a way of removing it, and my name's there now too. <doh>
     
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  12. Obadiah

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    It depends as I've said before on what we as a campaign decide to do.

    If the name changes I can see this being my last season because Hull Tigers are not Hull City to me. Before that decision is made a lot of water has yet to flow. What will be the FAs decision? What if Hull Tigers goes ahead do the rest of the campaign want to do? Do we stay and try and reclaim our name? Do we all leave and find something else to do? Do we leave and form Hull City AFC and start again?

    No easy answers to some difficult questions.
     
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  13. The Omega Man

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    ?

    Are you saying that CTWD will mount a legal challenge if the FA approves the name change? Who will you take on in the courts? Assem Allam, Hull Tigers, or the FA?

    You see the problem is this, morally CTWD is right to challenge the name change, even the government says that fans have to be engaged and most agree that it is a valid argument.

    But there is a massive possible legal implication that CTWD has to consider.

    If Assem Allam fails in his bid to change the name of the team and can prove that he has suffered financial loss because of the protest (sorry now you are a campaign), does he have a legal right to sue the leadership of CTWD?
    If Hull City are relegated and Steve Bruce says that the protests in the stadium cost him results, could Assem Allam sue CTWD?

    It would never happen would it?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...n-further-by-suing-anti-Glazer-supporter.html
     
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  14. Obadiah

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    Its not CTWD who may put in the legal challenge. The people who made their application for the name Hull Tigers may be the ones with the legal case.

    Bolton Wanderers' accounts show an income of £28.5 million in the championship. Our income during the same period was just over £11 million and we got promoted. You're right certainly makes interesting reading. Bolton Wanderers average attendance 2012-13 18,093, our average attendance 17,311. The extra 782 people per game resulted in an increase of income of over £10 million for Bolton Wanderers.
     
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  15. DMD

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    No and no.

    Your example's nothing to do with the campaign and the potential action wasn't a campaign issue, but a specific element of one persons indiscretion.
     
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  16. mostynthecat

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    In terms of forming a protest club Obi, that what I have said the anti-name campaigners should do for weeks, I'm certain those at FC United would give you all the help about making it a great success (thousands are against the name change we are told - so that is a great foundation to build a club on, as we are kept being told it is the fans who make a club).

    And why does everyone assume the FA will make a decision based on logic or tradition - can anyone produce one example? At the end of the day, no one knows what will go in the meetings (or even who will be in the final voting group - and if anyone claims they know can they link an official FA comment proving it) so it is as Dick Cheney so famously said an unknown unknown as there is no previous (and Cardiff's vote - if they have one, will be in favour as Tan wants to rename his club, and we don't know what other foreign owners may want. Coates at Stoke will be against it as he is a good one for tradition)
     
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  17. Obadiah

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    I've answered who has a potential legal right to challenge the FA's decision and its not CTWD.

    The FAs decision to hear our case in person has made any legal challenge by us difficult.

    The legal case against the Man Utd supporter is based on him putting the names of the club's corporate sponsors on the internet, not for anything they have done in the ground.

    I don't see how anyone can say singing City Till I Die and We say No Allam have resulted us losing a match. Steve Bruce himself said it created a terrific atmosphere against Liverpool.
     
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