Assuming success, faces will change, but possibly not numbers initially. Those that drop out will have their place taken by Prem fans. The big problem would come with any subsequent dips in form/relegations. The Hull Tigers replacements will have to show the same loyalty as the Hull City fans they replaced. Given they weren't interested in Hull City, do you really believe they'll hang around for Hull Tigers?
You've missed the point. Wimbledon became MK Dons they were legally entitled to keep the FA Cup and the history of the club. Nothing to do with moving grounds. The history of Wimbledon FC was added to, in your words, by the move to Milton Keynes. History wasn't changed.
History isn't defined by a trophy winners list at FA Headquarters or a name etched on a cup. History will recognise the club that changed it's name from HCAFC to Hull Tigers won the cup that year. Everyone interested in football history will know the club of Carter, Windass and Ashbee won the cup. You may argue with them, but you won't be taken seriously.
That depends on lots of things doesn't it. Everyone knows that MK Dons are the team that won the FA Cup in 1988 or did they?
I've absolutely no idea, nobody can know until a name change happens. What I am sure of is the vast majority of those who welcome the name change and get excited by the opposition we play will disappear should we suffer a couple of relegations. I've always gone to games to watch City, not the opposition.
That reads more like wishful thinking than anything having a basis in fact. If this goes ahead, make no mistake, the name etched on the trophy will never, ever be Hull City AFC. Hull City AFC will not exist. Hull City AFC will never create another piece of history, it's impossible.
It wasn't changed because history records that "The Crazy Gang" at Wimbledon won the FA cup. MK Dons can't change that to The Crazy Gang at Milton Keynes. History is a simple recording of an event it can't be changed after the event unless someone finds a Flux Capacitor.
So because they were called that, they keep that history? Seems to conflict with the other version of future history you're suggesting.
I think you're wrong there actually cos I think the first thing our next non-Allam owner would do would be to change the name back again.
History shows that Wimbledon FC won the FA Cup and then changed their name to MK Dons. MK Dons have the same right to the history of Wimbledon as Hull Tigers have to the history of Hull City.
Did I say that? Let's be honest, it's too much in the public eye for him to do that; my point is that if it were possible for him to do it, his own personal standards, that he has displayed during the course of this debacle, would lead me to believe he would lie, deceive and manipulate if it would allow him to get his own way and appear as a saviour in doing so.
I already agreed with you that the club name would have been changed, but your insistence that people won't regard it as the same club under a different name is futile. You know they will and I know they will. Leeds supporters still regard the early games played by Leeds City as part of their history and we would feel the same way about HCAFC if the name was changed,
This thread was supposed to be about a few supporters singing an offensive chant wasn't it? Just checking.
If we became the Slough Tigers based in Slough you would have a point, but this is about a name change, not a re-location. The club will remain where the fan base is and the same fans will regard it as the same club.
I'm disappointed with you Fez. You're the first one to stoop to personal insults in what has been an interesting discussion.
This one post sums up why I would never ever trust CTWD. History wasn't changed on Saturday, it was written, as it always is, in the past. Our history wasn't to have never scored 6 in the PL, the correct statement is, until that point in our history, we hadn't scored 6 in the PL, then, from 5pm, our history was that we had. Previous history wasn't changed, it still stands, before that game we hadn't scored 6, after that game we had. Thats how history works. If our name changed on say May 1st 2014, our history would record our name prior to 1st May as being Hull City AFC and it would record it as being Hull Tigers from the 1st May 2014 onwards. You use an emotive history based argument to ensnare the feeble minded, you want to scare people into believing the club will cease to believe by using the very thing that actually ensures it keeps going. It's weasely words of the highest order from you lot. I'm starting to think you lot are acting on behalf of the HCC as a distraction from their incompetence in the whole sorry facilities saga, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if in the next few months we see them listed as a partner of yours (Yep, the whole fans union thing whatever you call it, we know is you lot in disguise) along with Adam P. Your final sentence could easily be your signature and motto for CTWD.
Really I thought Wimbledon FC changed its name to MK Dons, same club different ground, different name. Your line in the sand is where the ground is, mine is the name. You make a big assumption about the same fans regarding it has the same club.
