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Chelsea vs Liverpool

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by StanDMan, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. CPofL KTBFFH

    CPofL KTBFFH New Member

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    You're the one full of ****. If you can't see that thighs coming together doesn't launch you in to space. Cheat, dive, no pen. And Jose was going mental at Suarez for diving ****.

    Even the Liverpool manager said it was at best obstruction because he knows what he''s talking about unlike you. Dick.
     
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  2. CPofL KTBFFH

    CPofL KTBFFH New Member

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    "On another day you could give that [Eto'o challenge] as a penalty, because it's obstruction in the area." Brendan Rodgers LFC Manager

    Shame he doesn't know that obstruction is an indirect free kick though <doh>
     
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  3. Master Yoda

    Master Yoda Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> christ almighty
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

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    Obviously a foul, you really have to be incredibly biased even for a football forum to argue against that.

    The problem is that Mourinho has taken on a fairly laughable stance that his team can do no wrong and the whole world is out to get him which certain Chelsea fans will lap up but, bizarrely, the media too. Not one of them had the bottle to question him when he said Suarez dived either about the ludicrousness of the statement or the hypocrisy of it.
     
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  5. Master Yoda

    Master Yoda Well-Known Member

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    You can tell by the sudden fear on Azpi's face, I think.

    EDIT: Mourinho is just doing what a good manager does by protecting his players - he wants the media to focus on him rather than Eto'o. Think he'll give the player a quiet word or two behind closed doors.
     
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  6. DferPolarBear

    DferPolarBear Well-Known Member

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    SB had more divers than a cliff at Acapulco. For me Eto'o fouls Suarez for his part Suarez does the sniper shot in back reaction. 'Professional' players treat the merest brush as being hit by a steam train. Some leap a little bit, others tend to use huge arm movements to catch the eye. So even when actually fouled they give the appearance of diving, especially when the ref is nearby to note the overdone reaction.

    I wasn't happy to see so many Chelsea players doing this too. I understand where it comes from, I've played enough football and been fouled so many times where all the officials have seen nothing. I've left a pitch and peeled skin off the inside of my shin pads after not winning a FK all game. Diving isn't only just an attempt to cheat, it is partly self defence developed from the inability of refs to be able to see everything and players taking full advantage. So now we have the triple salko roll for a brush with a stray bootlace or the shirt ripple on the back from a breath of a breeze (very funny to see a player collapse in feigned agony when no one is within ten yards of them).

    It persists because the reward from the successful dive far outweighs the punishment from being caught and also the backing it receives from your own fans when it does work. Cheating is considered part of being a professional and the onus is strictly on the officials to enforce the rules of the sport, so if cheating is successful that is the fault of the ref not the players, as it is their duty to gain any advantage they can. After all the financial stakes are high, this is no amatuer gentleman's game. If you want sporting ethics to be re-introduced the owners, coaches and players are the only ones who can do it. If they don't then TV slo-mo reffing is surely the only way to catch cheats and stiffer penalties for offenders.
     
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  7. CPofL KTBFFH

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    And you are laughing at what?

    YOUR manager admitting it was at best obstruction which is an indirect free kick. Or are you saying YOUR manager doesn't know what he is talking about?

    Or are you laughing at Suarez taking off when his thigh is brushed by Eto'o?

    Or are you just dim and laugh for the sake of it to cover up your lack of any logical response?
     
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  8. LucasPrime

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    He is only saying that, as he is in trouble with the FA for his comments after the city game.

    It was a blatant penalty, but tbh it would have been an injustice as the chavs deserved to win. I would still like to hear from Webb though, as to why he didn't book Suarez for a dive. As that is the only other option from the foul.
     
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  9. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Of course it's a foul. Only idiots like CPofL can't or don't want to see it. But you can bet your bottom dollar if that was a Liverpool defender bringing down Torres or Eto'o like that the silly **** would be screaming blue murder. Such is bias in football, but some people are prepared to make themselves look like twats trying to defend the indefensible.
     
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  10. Master Yoda

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    Top reply. Agree, especially your last paragraph.
     
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  11. Master Yoda

    Master Yoda Well-Known Member

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    Would I be asking too much to enquire as to whether you having a working knowledge of irony?

    But I digress; I was laughing at you.
     
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  12. CPofL KTBFFH

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    Don't be a fool. He could have said many things but he specifically said OBSTRUCTION because that at worst is what it is. The view from behind shows that the only touching between them was thigh to thigh and yet Suarez jumped in the air like a dolphin. Fortunately Webb was close enough to see and after reviewing it Rodgers knows it wasn't a pen either as obstruction is an indirect free kick.
     
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  13. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    Suarez cheated to win several set pieces.

    If the Suarez-eto incident was at the beginning of the match and the Hazard pen was at the end, there would be less bleating about it.

    Hazard was about to pull the trigger and shoot, Suarez was going nowhere (apart from to ground as usual)

    Lucas should have been sent off for raising his hands v oscar, who deserved a yellow for a tough challenge
     
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  14. Master Yoda

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    Was fully expecting Lucas to be sent off, another strange decision.

    The whole point of the Suarez thing is that he didn't have the ball. Eto'o had no reason to do anything but did.

    If you want to do 'cheating' to win set pieces, Oscar and Hazard crumpled in the same way Suarez does... and most players these days. Symptom of the game now unfortunately.
     
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  15. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    Fair point Yoda. Good to see at least one Scouse has calmed down since yesterday <ok>
     
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  16. Chelsea Pensioner

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    Pretty much what I said in my original post, that Luiz did "quite well". With more time in midfield I think he would get to be very good there. He has thrust going forward and really can split the defence with his passing. Once the front runners understand this, and anticipate the pass, I could see some real benefit in him playing there regularly.
    Cech just needs a wake up call, and Schwartzer is no slouch. Unfortunately, like Lamps, Cech is a Jose untouchable. Not good for Cech or the team.
     
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  17. bluemoon2

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    Its part of the modern game that is all money inspired and I think dferPolarBear has nailed it spot on! I've watched the Blues since 1959 and anybody who behaved on the pitch like Saurez back then might well have been sectioned and never allowed on the pitch again! Dont get me wrong--there were no shortage of defensive players who had a reputation for heavy tackles, but there were no "theatrics". If the ref thought there was malice involved then he took action, which was a sending off( no reds or yellows in those days}.I cant ever remember anyone going down apart from when he had no choice! Whatever--the players all shook hands at the end of the game!
     
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  18. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Yep, Tommy Smith, Chopper, the whole Leeds team, McKay, Dougan etc etc.

    But if your gonna have a pop at Suarez fair enough but to make your post credible you have to include Drogba and and Robben and many others.<ok>
     
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  19. Diego

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    You`re talking about a time when players played to the whistle instead of asking for one, a time when the refs word was law because we didn`t have 50 different slow motion angles to prove he might have made a mistake. I would think that like me you have called foul many times from the stand only to look at the ref and say no he must have got the ball.
     
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  20. bluemoon2

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    PMK--The remark was meant as a disease across the game in general, not one individual or club! I imagine managers and coaches make such things part of the weekly training programme!
     
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