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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    .... that the away teams struggled yesterday having played 2 days earlier.
    Only Man Utd managed to win and they looked drained after playing at Hull.

    Fulham won at Norwich but looked shot to pieces yesterday.

    Sunderland had a tough game at Everton and had a very long journey yesterday for a night match.
    The fact that there seems to be 'sickness' in the camp doesn't help.

    I thought we looked hesitant from the start and always believed that playing two away games in three days was a big ask, especially when you consider our away form.

    Our foreign players, in particular, looked dead on their feet.

    Despite all that I reckon the players deserve a lot of credit for raising themselves after going 2-0 down.
    The last time we went 2 down in Wales we just fell to pieces.

    A big change in mentality since Poyet arrived <ok>
     
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  2. Nordic

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    It's the first comeback we've made all season. Says it all. Even the MOTD chaps gave us credit for a deserved draw.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

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    It shocked me watching MOTD, we were firing shots in from all over the place and could've scored half a dozen.

    Roberge, Borini, Ki all had some excellent on-target shots ........... their keeper saved more than Mannone, at Everton, but many people won't mention that.

    Some just prefer to say we were ****e despite the stats.
     
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  4. Commachio

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    Roberge, ffs, when the ball was high in the air, always gonna be Mannone's ball, was tugging away on that Cornelius fella shirt..

    Carry on like this, i may even convert to a Colback fan, cos i'm a fickle ****er.
     
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  5. Cest Advocaat

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    Borini was excellent first half. The keeper made 3 fantastic saves from his efforts. Altidore was pitiful for his 1 yard blunder.


    A half fit Fletcher is far better but yesterday highlighted our desperate need for a striker. Altidore will cost us our EPL place if we don't replace him. He just can't score goals.
     
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  6. mackemwelder

    mackemwelder Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying we weren't ****e Smug? We were second best for 75 minutes to one of the worst teams in the league.
     
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    I've said it on other threads,although I hate knocking any of our players,Altidore is hopeless and couldn't score in a brothel!!We must bring in someone to replace him.
     
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  8. Sam_Fring

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    I tell you what Smug, you're right about that last bit. All this bollocks about a 'string of world class saves' at Goodison really wound me up. There was one excellent save from a free kick (which was never a free kick btw) and several saves that, if he hadn't saved, would have been very disappointing.
     
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  9. marcusblackcat

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    Disagree welder. We had the best chances if the game even up to the 75th minute. Their keeper was busier than ours by far
     
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  10. CyprusMackem

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    I find it shocking half the league got to play two home games and half two away in the space of two days in our case. Even if it did work out well for us in the end.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

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    Yes I disagree with you mate.

    We played our second tough away games in 3 days against two teams higher in the table.

    Despite that we had more real chances than Cardiff all through the game.

    The first half during which people claim we were ****e had 2 excellent shots from Borini either of which could've one in plus other chances.

    They were the home side and had no option but to go for it and we struggled to get going but I wouldn't say we we ****e.

    Their keeper kept them in it time and time again.

    Having said that, it was very frustrating after the determined energetic performance at Everton. I think we had our hopes & expectations a bit too high on the back of that, after all we're bottom aren't we?
    What right did we have to go away to a team, higher in the league, and expect to dominate the game?
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

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    With our away form that's the last thing we needed, it's a credit to the players that we came out with at least one more point than anyone really expected.

    Anyone who's ever travelled to Cardiff knows what a total balls ache it is and the players knew they wouldn't be home until daft o'clock.

    They'd had a journey to Liverpool the day after Christmas and worked themselves into the ground. Yes they're pro's but the fixture list should be looked at next year.
     
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  13. mackemwelder

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    Agreed, their keeper did pull off some decent saves but they were hardly from chances carved out by our players, more from mistakes by Cardiff. We were all over the place first half and even though we had more chances, they could have had 3 or 4 goals by half time if not for some decent saves by Mannone.

    I'm not saying we weren't good value for the point, but **** me, we made hard work of it against a **** team. Yes we were away and yes we were tired after 2 away games in quick succession, but I didn't't see much quality football from us until the last 15 to 20 minutes.
     
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    Don't agree with that at all mate.

    I do admit that we were very slow to get organised the way Poyet wanted but, tbh, Cardiff took me, you and everyone else by surprise.
    They haven't come out of the blocks like that for ages and it shook us up a bit.

    On the bright side Cardiff are ****ed.

    The new manger has these next fixtures to restore their confidence while scratting around the transfer window for bargains<doh>

    Premier League Arsenal v Cardiff
    FA Cup - Third Round Newcastle v Cardiff
    Premier League Cardiff v West Ham
    Premier League Man City v Cardiff
    Premier League Man Utd v Cardiff

    They'll get battered all over the ground at Arsenal, Man City & Man Utd and beaten, in the FA Cup, at Newcastle.

    If they don't beat West Ham, at home, they're down even if they draw. The game will be dominated by crowd trouble due to 'previous' with the Hammers.

    After that they have to go to Swansea, Tottenham, Everton, Southampton, Sunderland, Newcastle.

    Their squad is poor, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer will turn them down and they'll end up with Holloway or Dave Jones with Bellamy sniffing around in the background.
     
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  15. mackemwelder

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    We'll agree to disagree and yes Cardiff shot out of the blocks and got at us, but if we're going to beat the teams around us, you can't sit back and see what they have. We should be getting at them first.

    You're right about Cardiff though, they're ****ed as are Fulham, West Ham, Palace and possibly West Brom, although with Pulis in charge Palace might just scrape it.

    We'll be fine.
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Our fixtures say 'yes' ............. we have West Ham, Cardiff, Palace, Villa, Stoke, Hull, West Brom, etc at home.

    If we can't pick up enough points from them then we deserve to go down.
     
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    Villa is a must win, they're not playing that bad but we're at home so I'm looking for 3 points off them. If we get them it should be enough to see us climb off the bottom when you look at the rest of the games going on.
     
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    It's a 'must win' for the supporters but, tbh, a draw would keep the run going and put another point on the board.

    If we can just keep grinding out result after result we'll scrape survival which is all that counts.
     
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    Yes they are mate, the last 4/5 weeks they have been shocking, especially the last two games. There's never been a better time to play them all season, IMO.
     
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  20. Nordic

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    i just don't believe there's a good or bad time to play anyone in this league. look at the last few games.

    that doesn't mean to say we shouldn't beat them. we should. but they're generally better away from home......and we couldn't manage to make it count at their place. I'm expecting another tight match. anything better inc. a win and goals and I'll be very happy.
     
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