This is a shameful post, and typical of the self-righteousness of CH supporters. I AM A MORE AUTHENTIC FAN THAN YOU BECAUSE I SUPPORT MY MANAGER AND YOU PLASTICS DON'T! Those of us who want Hughton out don't attack you personally and question your loyalty. Making snide remarks about one of the friendliest, most conciliatory posters on here. Have you got no real arguments in favour of Hughton any more, so you have to descend to personal vilification? You really should be ashamed of yourself.
I don't want him sacked because we are 14th. I want him sacked because the football is awful to watch and we aren't picking up enough points to justify the lack of quality. If we were 14th and playing well, that would be fine.
Point taken - we would probably be tenth. However, it is also possible that we were playing well and not getting the rub of the green. The general point I was making is that (for me at least) wanting Hughton out is not primarily about results, it is about the fact that the performances have been dire for an entire calendar year.
Agreed! If we were playing that well surely we would be higher, so it makes no sense. Is it more about the way CH plays or actually results? If say we were 10th would you still be unhappy?
I have seen darker days (against worse opponents), with perhaps the pick of them being severe dross at home against Bury, Stockport Co, Cheltenham, Port Vale, but not once have I ever turned my back on the club. Poor management, players, or results will ever drive me away from the club I have loved for nearly 4 decades. However, I never have, and never will enjoy pedestrian football, and if I say so I do not expect to be turned on by you or anyone else. What does baffle me is why some are happy to accept 'poor' as being the 'normal', in the hope of it being enough to secure a place in the PL for another season. You might argue that what I say next is not a fair comparison...but if you watch a movie, and it is really bad, how likely are you to want to watch the same move all over again? and pay for the dubious pleasure? Thankfully there are many other games that can be watched with different kick off times, often games that provide at least some entertainment, and I do watch these games for the sake of seeing some decent stuff. We can argue all day long about the fact that Norwich will probably never be as pretty to watch as Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal (Not Chelsea perhaps), and that is why these clubs have a large worldwide following (in addition to their marketing) - they normally entertain the viewer. Call me a purist if you like, but I do want to be entertained and do not accept 'poor' most weeks as being good enough, even if it does mean surviving each season. I love watching Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal at home, but I can't say that about my own team at this point. That does not mean I am going to convert to another club, it just means those teams can provide what I need to keep my interest in the game.
My comment about supporting another club was a tongue in cheek response to this one from Thai, thought it was pretty obvious myself. Maybe get yourself familiar with the context of a post before shouting and screaming, ok? Get over yourself FFS!! If anything is shameful on here it's the negative, ill-informed bollocks you post on here every time we don't win a game some of you lot appear to ignorantly think we have a divine right to, so keep your insults to yourself eh? "Ashamed of myself"? You can do one as far as I'm concerned mate Here's another one for you
You're right mate, it's not a fair comparison in fact it's an absolutely bloody ridiculous comparison!! Movies are scripted right, and football is a live sporting event played in front of fans who are there to support and cheer their team on - or have I missed something here? You can read all the reviews and comments of others before you go to see a movie because it has already happened, whereas a big part of the attraction in a game of football - in fact any sport - is the unknown and not knowing what is going to happen and what the outcome is going to be. Sorry mate, but if these are the best kind of analogies you can come up with then I think you're struggling a bit
The truth is that you have the same problem as us in that you have the players to compete against anyone in the premiership but we don't have the right managers. The managers we have cant play the style of football that we were use to under Lambert for you and Rodgers for us and because of that our progress has come to an abrupt end and we are going backwards. We are both lucky that there are some poor sides this season to keep us out of the bottom 3 but as long as we both have these two managers then we are in the mix to go down...
we were in the mix with lambert to go down as well, (the messiah is hardly setting Villa alight). A slightly better performance or even a lucky win and none of these folk would be bleating, the previous three games weren't pretty either, but there was no fecker stating how ****e we are and are destined to go down
With respect people seem to say every season "we are lucky there are a lot of poor sides", whoever the team is in the bottom 10. You say it is down to the managers and in some ways it maybe, but more then anything to continue the kind of progress both clubs have made you need a huge injection of money. We spent 25 mil which seems loads to us but really it is a very average outlay, especially when teams in the top 8 spend 10-40 million on one player. It is very hard for clubs like ours to break into the top 10 on a consistent basis, although I imagine in the long run that would be both clubs aims. For us at least to achieve this we had to change our style of play considerably in order to sustain ourselves in the PL, while CH has tried to do that despite what people may say he has not achieved it successfully as yet. Hopefully both clubs will stay up as I expect them to and continue to build next season, but smaller clubs really do need to do this over time as they don't have the huge finances for a quick fix.
For me the biggest ordeal (and not pleasure) of watching us at the moment is the waiting/willing/begging the team to 'click'. I'm amazed that with all this apparent talent, they still look as if they've just met for the first time in the changing room. The moments of magic for me this season have largely been down to individual brilliance (Howson/Redmond/Fer/Hooper goals). There hasn't been a game where I've thought, "TEAM!!!". I still await the magical.
You are right but it is more the principle, why watch and tolerate the same rubbish, week in and week out? The only reason I can see anyone defending the team, is because as of today we are not threatened immediately by relegation, although there is every chance a bottom 3 berth is ours for the taking in the early New Year, and perhaps their will be a more nervous feel about the place should that happen. The only point you have not addressed is....What does baffle me is why some are happy to accept 'poor' as being the 'normal', in the hope of it being enough to secure a place in the PL for another season. You seem to be firmly in this camp and I would love for you to explain to my why. What does being in the PL mean to you? (Not the club)
Although the bleating was reduced, it was not completely forgotten or lost on a number of people Even at West Brom, City were a little better than in previous games and nicked a result thanks to the Baggies not being able to score in a brothel on the day. Such a result did no more than paper over the cracks, but I will admit it was a huge comfort to see a rare away win
Not sure it should mean a lot to anyone really. I would enjoy us playing in the championship and winning as much as the prem, although as with most people you want to be the best and that means playing in the PL. In terms of enjoyment though I would happily sacrifice some of the PL quality, for a more competitive league each year. As to me it is competition that is more entertaining then nice passing.
That is what I am trying to find out Tipsy - some fans appear to believe that being in the PL is everything, but why? I understand it from the clubs POV, but why is it so important to fans? Why is it so important for the fans of Leicester (for example) to get promoted? What's in it for them, other than the feel good factor until perhaps the following August/September when the harsh reality kicks in.
You don't get the chance to see your team pit their wits against World Class players in the Championship!
Bragging rights? Say your team is better then another? Only valid reason I can think of is people what to be or their team to be the best which means being in the PL. Not sure you can say it is down to more entertaining, better football, as in reality unless you are a top team the football is very average in terms of entertainment.
