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Tim Sherwood appointed manager

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spudulike, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. totsfan

    totsfan Well-Known Member

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    Keith Burkinshaw,no one had heard of him when he took over,need i say more,we need to give Sherwood a chance,thr team are already playing better than under AVB,so stop bleating.and get behind him ffs. <cool>
     
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  2. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    I gotta say (and it pains me to do so!!) I agree with HIAG here. Although I'm undecided on (1) or (2) - but I'll try and be optimistic for you guys and say (1).

    He'll do OK - but is OK what you want? More to the point OK isn't good enough.
     
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  3. Spurm

    Spurm Well-Known Member

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    Positives:
    Knows players
    Wants job
    Needs to prove himself
    Will give youth a chance (seemingly)
    Tom Carroll/Ade/Benny(?)
    English manager (rare)
    Entertaining team setup so far
    Is one of Harry's minions so will likely keep it simple and get the players smiling again

    Negatives:
    Ego (could be a positive)
    Lack of experience


    Get behind the guy everyone. All managers start somewhere
     
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  4. Blue and White

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    COYS!!!!!


    Fully behind him and Levy.

    Can we stop with this team bashing and get behind the team AND management!

    Flaspur- I don't see you doing a better job. In fact I doubt whether any one of us posters could do a better job than Levy or as manager-we wouldn't be posting if we could.
     
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  5. notsosmartspur

    notsosmartspur Well-Known Member

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    Interesting but understandably innaccurate views from rival supporters who only seem to be making their opinion based on football matters on the pitch. What you are all unaware of are the behind the scenes goings on, where avb's style of man-management was the biggest problem. This has not and will not be covered by newspapers for all and sundry to read. His manner upset at least 5 senior players, 2, to the detriment of the team that needed players in their positions. Now you lot can sing till the cows come home that he should have been given more time....for what? No amount of time would have corrected the pitch issues if half the squad don't buy into his ideas, sorry, idea! (he's only got one) and he's alienated the other half.

    As for Sherwood, I really don't know, but I think at this moment he ticks more boxes than not, but the ones he does tick are important ones, as in his appt will be less disruptive. You lose months with a new bloke as he learns about the squad and they learn about him. This way there's none of that and just the football can be concentrated on. Its not ideal, but would seem the best solution for now in terms of continuity, which with the league as tight as it is right now would appear to be the sensible thing. Despite an unsatisfactory first half of the season, we're not down and out of it, despite our own failings we find ourselves above ManUtd! <yikes>

    To be fair to him he has the confidence and the mouth to get himself this position on this basis, all we can do is see if he can walk the walk.

    The much maligned Adebayor kind of summed things up in his MOTD2 interview, and Sherwood displayed man-management avb is incapable of. TS spoke personally to Ade reminding him the player he was at Arse, City and RM and could he just go out on the pitch and play some football. Ade while saying this, you could see how important it was to him to be believed in. Not that I'm saying he's the long term answer, he's the immediate answer in the best interest of first team results. If you're two other strikers are struggling as bad as JD and Soldado are, keeping a perfectly good one on the sidelines because he was late back from Int. duty a few times is bollox. Whatever else Ade has done it cannot be any worse than Suarez at Pool....he refused to train!...Ade never has.

    I think I can assure you Pool fans if avb was in charge of you lot,, Suarez would not have put up with the treatment Ade has been given for the length of time either. If avb was refusing to play Suarez over a 'disiplinary' how would you lot feel? At the end of the day, the teams performnce and results are the most important thing, and sometimes you just have to do whats best for the club, and that is where avb failed.
     
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  6. Spurf

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    Spot on notso. <ok>
     
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  7. SpursDisciple

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    Fair summary. Not sure he knows the first team squad very well, seemed unaware of what Capoue can do!

    I hope everyone will follow this advice. We can have our say now, some will be disappointed, or even angry. However once the team crosses the white line against WBA then hopefully we are all Sherwood's Blue and White Army and we draw a line under this?
     
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  8. Spurm

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    I haven't seen the comment about Capoue. Was he being serious? He seems quite deadpan. After the Saints game he made the crack about earning a bonus every time one of the youth players made his debut and if he hadn't pointed out he was joking i'm not sure i would have got it.
    Could he have been joking about Capoue?

    Personally, i think he knew what Capoue could do but he also knew (better) what Bentaleb could do. Plus, it was his big game and i'm sure Levy, being the money man he is and with the investment he's sanctioned in the training ground, is big on youth players coming through. So bringing on Bentaleb was a "hey Levy, i'll do this for you".
    Sherwood said afterwards too that Bentaleb would have to wait his chance even after the promising debut, which shows he knows there are other players in front of him already.
     
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  9. Spurm

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    Another positive - he seemed proactive. None of this sitting and waiting to see if the system would work. He came down the touchline, shouted some, changed things, made some decent subs, didn't sit back on a 1 goal lead (which i hate)
     
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  10. Tilly'sowner

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    I have my reservations as mentioned elsewhere, but TS has now been appointed to my surprise.

    The positive spin on this is that TS has now got to prove himself after his numerous comments and he will want to make a good start to his coaching career for a big team. He has been thrown in at the deep end, but he already has experience of coaching the Academy. He will have a difficult job balancing the morale of the senior players against those of the newer kids waiting to come up through the ranks. I suspect Levy has instructed him to get Ade playing again, possibly with a view of selling him, but also to utilise the youngsters more to increase their values, while at the same time, keeping the seniors happy. TS will piss some people off, and like AVB, he will have no choice but to rotate regularly. However, so far, he is at least playing people in their preferred positions.

    I say let's get behind the man, give him a chance and we may be in for a nice surprise.
     
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  11. I'd give it a go.
    I'd get us playing with conviction and intent.
    HIAG's team selection would be brave yet positive.
    I reckon the fans would quickly warm to me and sing my name from the terraces.
    Songs would be written about me, extolling my genius.
    Yes, I would sometimes have to confront Levy and read the Riot Act to him, and I would always get my way.
    I'd undoubtedly have a love/hate relationship with the press, but they would respect and fear me.
    The players would, of course, love me, and often run to me as part of their goal celebrations.

    In short, I am the messiah you have all be waiting for.
     
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  12. On a less serious note, I see that Phil McNumpty, over on the BBC website, has, again, been stating the absolute bleeding obvious. He's saying that Sherwood has to grasp the opportunity that he's been given.
    <doh>

    No **** Sherlock!

    And this idiot is paid to come up with this ****!
     
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  13. Spurf

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    Of course you are HIAG, of course you are.
     
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  14. Spurm

    Spurm Well-Known Member

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    You're not the messiah, you're a very naughty boy
     
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  15. Bald Archie

    Bald Archie Not606 Official Lurker

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    Bang on mate. The bold part is the key thing for me, and it's what we need atm. Be it cliched nonsense or whatever, we need some positive noise from our coach, not AVBs mumblings (I could hardly understand what he was saying most of the time). I was glad to hear AVBs departure, on record as never wanting him in the 1st place but kept schtum and gave him a chance.

    Cards on the table...I'm happy with TS as head coach for the short term to see how he does, and confidant he can get the squad working to their potential and pushing for top 4.

    Having said that, we MUST take 6 points from our next two matches to build that confidence and carry it into the new year.
     
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  16. Beef

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    Hopefully he will bringing in some young English players(just not any of Saints). I used to like Spurs with a mainly English team but that got ripped away.
     
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  17. O.Spurcat

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    I think it's worth mentioning Chris Ramsey who is part of his new management team. He has been with the club for the best part of 10 years now and has an excellent reputation within the game as a future top coach. In addition to his full coaching qualifications, he also has qualifications in sports science and has worked for the FA as coach to younger players, and was involved with the Englnd under 20 side at the WC this summer. One of his roles for he FA has been to assess coaches on their courses. In fact, he first met AVB when he was overseeing a coaching course in Scotland where AVB was taking his badges.

    Whilst his post playing career has been mostly spent working with younger players, this guy will not be out of his
    depth working with the senior players. He will be a valuable member of Tim's management team and fully merits this opportunity.
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    "Keith Burkinshaw,no one had heard of him when he took over,need i say more"

    Yeah, you can. You can say trivial stuff like :

    - he was already in the coaching setup during St Nicholsons' final time

    - that St Nicholson allegedly rated him highly enough to say twas a mistake
    that he and the club did not go for him immediately instead of Terry Neill.
     
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  19. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    "Taking into account the competition faced by Spurs in the PL the fact that we are only 6 points of the lead after playing
    well below our potential suggests things are not that bad."

    Things are not that bad.
    But AVB could not convince Levy that things would not get far worse quickly.
     
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  20. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    A pretty cheap shot I might say. At no stage have I bashed the team or Sherwood for that matter. If you read my comments, it is quite clear that my annoyance is based on the lack of direction, stability or competence that our Chairman and board have shown over the past 5-6 years, but most notably the last 2 years.

    Some memories are clearly a lot shorter than mine and clearly some allegiances to the club are blurring what it means to support your club and what it means to support those than run it. It's like saying you can only be patriotic to England if you say you love David Cameron as well.
     
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