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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Queenslander!!, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    Weirdly, I'm with him on this (whilst of course holding his actual beliefs in complete contempt). If you do have faith, surely it has to be all or nothing? And I like his take on the commandments, his neighbours will be delighted that their asses are safe from interference.
     
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  3. Swords Hoopster.

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    Just after I posted it, I noticed your comment to RTID above, RE if they're real Christians at least they should stand by their convictions.

    You're quite correct Stan. In fairness to the guy, he's not a hypocrite in that regard. Whether the SRU should continue to avail themselves of his services is another matter entirely.

    P.S. Did you get all of that Hitchens clip I put up yesterday? I had to go back and put in the full version with the remaining few minutes. His answer to the last question was brilliant because of its obvious logic and honesty. Its interesting that it was the Christian who came across as devious, cunning and immoral throughout that entire interview.
     
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  4. Rangers Til I Die

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    Absolutely agree that there is massive good done in our society by folks of many different religious persuasions and, of course, those of none. My thoughts were just sparked by your lad's debate about religion.

    Personally, if and when I've been involved in such efforts, it is simply for this reason. People are worth the effort. Each individual touched and helped is worthy of respect, autonomy and the other 'rights' that most of us enjoy and too often take for granted.

    The 'reward' motivation is part of the 'religion' thing that I would argue is less than helpful because it reduces people to commodities that are being used to secure future benefit. That is not great motivation and, were I in need of some help, I would want to feel that help was coming my way out of compassion and human decency as a starting position.
     
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    Haven't looked at it yet mate, too busy wasting my Christmas Eve thinking about the things I need to do, but doing none of them. Looking forward to it though....
     
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    Spot on, have a great Christmas RTID.
     
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  7. Rangers Til I Die

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    You too mate and to your loved ones too.
     
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  8. Queenslander!!

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    I just had a listen and tht was very good. i like his arguements and points and never thought of it from that perspective..

    Good post <ok>
     
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  9. KooPeeArr

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    Sorry but, removing religion, all you have is a bad employee.

    Put in a position where they might have to compromise their beliefs (ie assigned the job role) they say nothing.

    Put in the direct situation where they must make the stand to protect their beliefs (ie serve the customer) they decide to declare this rather than calling their supervisor over and saying that someone will need to take over.

    In an age where beliefs are protected from discrimination, saying this early rather than publicly embarrassing your employers would seem most sensible.

    I've only seen what you guys and gal have said so correct me if I missed something.
     
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  10. Busy Being Headhunted

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    What a complete load of bollocks <doh>
    The management are just doing the job they should be doing
    If someone doesn't want to do what they are told, they should **** off somewhere else
     
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  11. Swords Hoopster.

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    I think we've just found out what Andy's job is :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    It is not clear to me that the primary motivation for all people of faith to do good deeds is in order to secure a future benefit. Not content with ridiculing and, in some instances, aggressively attacking those with faith, it would appear that a greater virtue is now to be attached to the atheist that does good deeds than, for example, to the Christian (whose motives must now be questionable). There is clearly plenty of room for everybody in this brave new liberal and enlightened world, but only if you conform to the modern ideal or, if you can't do that, keep your opinions and beliefs to yourself.

    Merry Winterval, everybody!
     
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  13. Flyer

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    I thought they werent allowed to drink it rather than sell it?

    Anyway shes doing her religion no favours, now people will just hire non muslims to save on the hassle. Especially smaller places that cant just shift them to another dept.
     
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  15. Swords Hoopster.

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    Speak of the devil......
     
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    Damn, a religious thread and I missed it.

    Swords has invoked Hitchens C, and that's good enough for me.

    Happy Christmas everybody.
     
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    Indeed. May God rest his soul, Strolls.
     
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  18. Swords Hoopster.

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    <doh>.
     
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