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Tim Sherwood appointed manager

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spudulike, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. Big Chief

    Big Chief Active Member

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    The man doesn't have experience but he has my support.

    Glad an Englishman has been given a chance TBH.

    It will either be a disaster or a major success.

    We must all stand with him though!

    COYS!!
     
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  2. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    is that right, avb was more purrrty IMO. :D
     
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  3. Spurf

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    He is a coach not a manager we have Baldini remember. He has plenty of coaching experience he also has winning experience as a player. There is enough there to give him a chance and I have to say the Southampton game was a vast improvement over the rest of our season.

    Anyway whatever we think he is installed so let's see what happens. BTW if you reckon that spotting a managerial failure is impressive I would disagree, it's par for the course, the trick is to find the successful one.
     
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  4. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    Coach/Manager whatever.. splitting hairs over rhetoric. The difference is the same fella. He's in charge of team selection and tactics. End of.

    Trust me, I don't like spotting failed managers, I'm sick of this nonsense and I take no pleasure or satisfaction from it whatsoever. I look forward to the day when we have a manager that delivers exciting football, takes us to new heights and makes our team play the Spurs way… oh hang on, we had that in Redknapp but apparently, the board wanted the take the club "in a new direction" instead. That direction clearly being of a southerly nature!

    We should never have been in this position in the first place. Our downfall is our own making.
     
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  5. Sharpe*

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    Cannot see what he can do that AVB couldn't.

    Big gamble but who knows.

    Levy will be plotting to replace him now anyway.
     
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  6. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    Of course, no chairman offers a derisory contract like 18 months without the thought at the back of his mind that this will all go tits up. It just highlights the ridiculous nature of Levy's recent hiring and firing for what it is. Pure incompetence. As always, its to cover his own arse financially more than anything if Sherwood gets fired. It's a total shambles to be frank.
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    Pick Adebayor? Get Spurs to score three goals in a league game this season? Recall Assou-Ekotto next week? Avoid getting into spats with hacks?
     
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  8. Sharpe*

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    Can't argue with that to be honest!

    Levy could do with asking himself a few questions. It appears from the outside he is doing as much damage as anybody else.
     
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  9. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    Indeed and who can argue with someone who is neutral and can be more objective than a loyal supporter of the club.
     
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  10. Sharpe*

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    Yeah its always good to have a balance.

    Levy has made a few decisions now that you could see coming but thought they may be poor for Spurs in the long run.

    Although Harry deserved a slap for having his head turned, with money, he could have done well this season.

    Yet he's in the division below now.
     
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  11. Boss

    Boss Son of Pulis

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    There is no real basis to say Sherwood is a top quality coach as he isn't proven, nor is there any real basis to employ a manager after two games just because the team played better after our previous manager was one of the leagues most dour.

    Yet not all decisions have to have real basis if they turn out a success, so this is clearly the biggest gamble by Levy. Whoever hes been chatting to, has convinced him to give Sherwood a chance as Levy doesn't know how to spot a top quality coach, he needs someone to tell him that person is a top quality coach.

    Anyway, its happened now and after all the doom and gloom of Avbs reign, we have to simply judge Sherwood on what he does for us, as there is no previous, nothing to judge him by and this could be the decision which Levy can't recover from if it goes wrong.
     
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  12. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    Harry wound a lot of us up with his antics and press relations but I was never one of that group who wanted him out. He delivered the most exciting football I have seen at the club in my lifetime since the late 80's supporting Spurs and we go and sack him. The whole England deal just needed a sensible approach. Sit him down and get him to commit to the club with an improved contract. If he signs, the whole saga is over; dead; dealt with, if he doesn't then you justifiably have reason to sound out other managers if he possibly leaves; which in the end he didn't.

    No… our chairman can't deal in rationality. It's black or white in his world so he sacked him because of stubborn stupid pride. Then hires a guy who Chelsea discarded faster than a bad fart and we are where we are. It's a shambles and the fact that evil Levy still has his job is an even bigger injustice!

    Tottenham Hotspur will never progress further than a 'nearly' club with UEFA Cup football most seasons, with the odd fantasy of the top 4 under his watch. Fact.
     
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  13. perrymanlegend

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    You're quite upset at this Flaspur, and I can understand where you're coming from.
    I too am getting fed up with Levy not picking the right man for the job and hiding under the desk when the walls come crashing down.
    But to put it plainly we are Spurs supporters for better and usually worse and we should back the team to achieve their best no matter what is happening in the board room.
     
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  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Think it's great news and a brave but positive appointment.

    Of course I'd have loved us to get de Boer but realistically, deep down, I knew that weren't happening. All of our supposed targets were pretty much happily employed and so I think we all expected to at least have to wait until the summer if we were to hire a big name but I'm glad Levy's given Sherwood an 18 month deal. Internal recruitment of a young coach, who's been with the club 5 years now (plus the years he spent as a player) could be a good move, he knows the club and players well, while also mentioning in his post match interview that he understands what the fans want, which I respect. I think it was Spurf that mentioned that we've already gone for big name managers in the past and it hasn't really brought much success so I really don't see the risk in giving Tim a go.

    In Sherwood's two games, I've seen more to be positive about than the 18 months that AVB provided us with. We've all said for ages that with the players we have they should be playing a more attractive brand of attacking football and the Southampton game showed that. Sure we were shaky at the back but with the first month or two of this season aside, when has Spurs ever really been a solid unit at the back? We've always tended to go with the "we'll score more you" philosophy and while it may not have brought us tons of success, it's brought us tons of excitement over the years and that's what I'm happy to pay and watch for.

    Best of luck Tim, here's hoping for a positive and potentially successful era under you <ok>
     
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  15. Spurf

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    If your negative view is right Fla then let us at least see some exciting games with some decent football.

    It's always a roller coaster with Spurs and is never boring for long. Personally I think that this constant bleating on about Redknapp from his fan club IS getting boring so I am not yet again repeating my self on this one.
     
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  16. Moorpheus19

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    Bale still would have been sold under Redknapp. Would he have been able to sign the players that AVB did (on paper, nearly all very good to excellent players)? Not sure.

    Fact is - it can be argued over whether or not Redknapp/AVB should've been sacked till the cows come home. Sherwood is the new boss, whatever we think of him...
     
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  17. littleDinosaurLuke

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    'Arry was a very good manager for Spurs - experience counts for a lot. Most successful managers in the PL in recent times have been very experienced. There is a lot to cope with at a big club. A novice manager has the odds stacked against him, but in the short term there's no doubt that Sherwood offers some sort of continuity and stability; he knows the players, he won't be overhauling the squad, he is a coach rather than a manager as such.
     
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  18. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    I think this is what riles me most. I too want to get behind the team but why should that mean I have to take blinkered view of the board and who runs the club. I support the 'badge', not the people employed to run the club. As someone who has spent a shed load on travel and match day tickets in the past and more recently due to geography pay-per-view fees etc, I feel I have a right to express my disgust if I feel the club is being ran by a bunch of incompetent amateurs.

    Why should Levy be able to make the key decisions on how the team is managed, then fire successful managers and replace them with incompetence and get away with it repeatedly? I get the feeling that some fans feel that my criticism of the board is in some way unpatriotic of the club. It couldn't the further from the truth. I support what the club stands for. Long after these idiots leave, the club will remain for generations to come. They are simply the present torchbearers as such and right now, their level of care stinks.
     
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  19. Spurf

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    That's one advantage of employing a DOF like Baldini it makes it possible to employ someone like Sherwood because he only has to look after the playing side. The administration can be left to others with more experience.
     
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  20. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    What "big name" managers have we appointed?

    Jaques Santini - did he win anything?
    Martin Jol - not a big name
    Juande Ramos - won the UEFA Cup. Big deal.
    Harry Redknapp - one FA Cup
    Andre Villas-Boas - won the UEFA Cup. One full season of management to his name

    I call a big name someone who has actually achieved something tangible over a long period.
     
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