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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by THFC6061, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    The odd thing about the game was that we looked good, as good as we've looked all year some think, with only Ade being outstanding, and only Soldado, Chadli and Bentaleb genuinely good.
     
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  2. PowerSpurs

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    If that were true a lot more corners would result in a goal.

    Our first goal on Sunday was interesting. Soldado crossed it into the penalty area where Adebayor had three defenders and the goalie within 3 yards of him but it landed bang on his foot with no-one making a challenge. You can call that a brilliant ball, and so it was, but I'd bet they could try it 1000 more times and not score once.

    The reason that it is not a simple game is that scoring a goal is not easy so every little advantage is worth striving for. Provided of course that the players don't get confused by the coach, which is an obvious danger with an approach like AVB's
     
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  3. Spurf

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    And this IMO is your fundamental mistake. Goals come from unexpected events which is why set pieces are not that productive. Unexpected events come largely from chaos and are therefore the antithisis of planned attacks. AVB and his planning has now been found out twice and still people advocate his approach and no doubt somebody else will employ him at enormous expense.

    I smile!
     
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  4. notsosmartspur

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    Rubbish!, you cannot compare everyone being static from a set piece, we're talking open play, entirely different, and Spurf is bang on, Bobby has often been the only target in the 18yd box, y'day we had numerous runners into the box on several occasions....probably caught the wingers out having all those options mind!, but its a step in the right direction.
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

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    Adebayor's run had a lot to do with it. Made it hard for the defenders to pick him up.
     
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  6. PowerSpurs

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    I don't think anyone is talking about planned attacks. AVB's approach was to keep the ball so that we got more attacks and the opponents fewer. More chaos for us and less for them. Lots of things went wrong but surely this is the right approach
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    Not if you're as static as his sides for us were and the striker's so isolated. Keeping the ball is good, but only if you intend to do something with it.
     
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  8. notsosmartspur

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    It had everything to with it.

    Power, Bobby did not aim at Ade's foot from out there, he merely played a quality cross into a danger area, many players are capable of this. What Ade did, many players aren't, he generated his own space between the defenders with movement, he jinked to go behind and to the right of Fox I think it was who fell for it and moved over, Ade checked back the other way and got inbetween the two defenders. He judged the flight better than they did.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

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    Exactly.
    Watch Stewart Downing when he returns from injury for West Ham.
    Lots of quality delivery into the box, often with pace and into dangerous areas, but nobody with the guile to get into the right place and take advantage.
    Causing chaos with a little bit of movement and getting onto players' blindsides or into space ahead of them seems to go unappreciated on a lot of occasions.
     
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  10. The RDBD

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    "Power, Bobby did not aim at Ade's foot from out there, he merely played a quality cross into a danger area, many players are capable of this."

    A "6 yard" cross that one, was it not. Must be a fair bit of supporting stats for the scoring rate for those ones.
     
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  11. PowerSpurs

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    Absolutely true. I was expecting this to be the next step but we'll never know now. It will be interesting to see if AVB ever gets four years somewhere. If he does I wouldn't mind betting he will be there for the next 20 too.
     
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  12. Spurm

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    Teddy Sheringham. Best i've ever seen at creating space, slipping defenders with intelligent (slow) runs
     
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  13. The RDBD

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    Teddy : 200 mph brain on 2 mph legs.
    Just one type of the many Spurs strikers of yore we needed during 2010-13.
     
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  14. notsosmartspur

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    Looking forward to MNF tonight as it goes, and see what Neville and Carra made of our game, they're bound to cover it in their weekend round up before the Goon game. As commentator on the match Neville was mightily impressed with Bentaleb, and so was I.

    Last thing from me, it was nice to see a Spurs based pundit on the live show yesterday. Last week I was livid the panel was all ex Pool, Carra, Gerrard, and Souness....for a ****in home Spurs game!
     
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  15. PleaseNotPoll

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    With ex-Goon Alan Smith as the co-commentator. <doh>
     
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  16. SpursDisciple

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    They introduced Souness as ex Spurs - taking the piss I think. What was he 17 when he got homesick for up north!
     
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  17. O.Spurcat

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    How was Jamie yesterday ?? Some of his recent comments suggest he is still bitter about his dads sacking.
     
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  18. Spurm

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    he got schooled by Hoddle on tactics. It was like watching a dad trying to explain quantum physics to his 2 yr old kid.
     
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  19. PowerSpurs

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    I actually saw him play for Spurs youth team in the FA youth cup against Aldershot
     
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  20. Made comment in this pre-match yesterday. Redknapp showed himself up as embittered and ignorant in equal measure. Hoddle had him for breakfast and it was a delight to watch!!
     
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