It appears that our near neighbours,Cardiff City F.C., are in the middle of a crisis. Talk is rife of managerial sackings and potential change of ownership,and all the financial ramifications that would entail. There is even talk of supporters boycotting upcoming games. It's all looking rather gloomy up the road. So,why I do feel so indifferent to it all? Should I care about their demise? If so - WHY?
Your standard has slipped VETCH. Simply writing this article shows you are anything but indifferent. Merry Christmas by the way.
I think it's a question of personal taste Vetch. I respect the fact that others feel completely differently but I do care - but maybe not in the way you think. I really don't like them at all and have never pretended to say anything else. But I dislike owners like Tan even more and I would dearly love for their fans to rise up as we did during the Petty era and boot the bastard out. He's already said he'll sell up if they upset him so I'd go out of my way to do just that. Would I like to see them relegated? Of course. This 'good for Welsh football' mallarky is something I've never bought into. But more than that I would pay good money to see Tan's face when he gets his comeuppance. Hopefully one day it will happen.
I wasn't aware that I had put my "standards" up for critical observation,but there you are,reading between the lines,I guess. Indifferent - "distant;detached;cool;unmoved;unsympathetic;impervious;apathetic". Hate to disagree IT, especially when you have so graciously wished me a Merry Christmas,but I think the above just about covers it. However,were I to imbibe copious quantities of the Gluhwein that I have just taken possession of,then I may start to see things differently. Throw in a few delicious dark chocolate Lebkuchen,and who knows,I may just see the error of my ways. However,I notice with deep regret,and some considerable disappointment,that you failed to proffer a single reason why I should care,and that was the main premise of the article. Merry Christmas to you also,hope you and your family have a great time.
I don' t buy into this at all. I don't wish any club and its followers to go through what cardiff are going through...Its only a game and wales would be poorer without cardiff just as it would without us or any other welsh club...
Maybe what you should ask your self should be , if the roles were reversed and we were in the s***e how would you perceive a ccfc to react
the majority of fans at both clubs are not as shallow as some and we had good support and good wishes from all clubs including cardiff when we nearly went bust. I dont know if anyone has friends who support cardiff but i have quite a few including my best friend who has refused to enter cardiff's stadium ever since the rebrand....To hate another club is a bit pathetic in my view as what possible pleasure do we benefit from that..It's just a game at the end of the day...
Agree Dai. I work with plenty of Cardiff fans, and most of my mates support them, and everyone is great so I a agree with you. Although I have to admit I've been ripping the piss out of them all big time today
I think it's personal choice. I dislike Cardiff and wish them relegation because of my own experiences as a Swans supporter over the years. And yes I do have some mates who are Cardiff fans. On one occasion years ago I went to a local derby at Ninian and found myself with my mates in amongst the Cardiff fans in one of the stands. It wasn't pleasant and I had to sit on my hands when we scored. Trust me, most of the ones I've met don't want us in the Prem at all and would love it if we were relegated so I'm happy to feel the same about them. But I don't knock others who have a different view. It depends on a number of factors. Different strokes for different folks and all that.
That's your view and I ain't knocking you for it. None of my friends support them that's for sure. In my experience they hate us. Just look at their twats who wum on here that says it all for me. I'm not gonna pretend to like them or buy into that they are welsh I can't stand the twats or the scumbags that follow them and I never will. It's best to ignore them they're all deluded maybe one day they'll see what that Fake Tan is doing to them. In the meantime leave them to it
This thread was not created to enable me to bask in the disaster that has seemingly overtaken our Capital City neighbours. What attracted me was the delicious irony of it all. Anyone who lived through the old BBC 606 days will doubtless remember the ridicule,abuse and insults that were free flowing form the posts of those who now spend their every waking moment crying and feeling sorry for themselves. What goes around,definitely comes around,and there's a new roundabout been built by a certain Mr.Tan,and all the exits seem to be blocked. But they will survive this crisis,and a new Manager will be in place soon. They will then soon forget all about it,and normal service will be resumed. For such is the behaviour of the modern day football supporter,and it's not a pretty sight.
Ah much as I dislike the lot up the road, the original question was, "Should I care?" Unfortunately, the answer is yes. Not because of welsh connections or tribalistic infighting, but because the ****in' FA and the Premier League need to get a grip on the ownership of clubs and the reasons for that ownership. We had a lucky escape ten years ago and it was the players on one day that saved us. Chairmen and owners that are not here for the club with tangible reasons for wanting to be here, should be more rigorously checked. The situation that Ridsdale created at more than one club should never be allowed to happen. As a football community, we look at Hull and C.Diff and we should be as outraged as they are (or should be in the case of some of the doormats in the C.Diff camp) because at so e point in the future, an offer too big for Jenkins to turn down could arrive on his desk and we could be in the hands of some Namibian gold mine owner who just wants to sell the rights to the stadium and change the shirt colour because his Gran liked pink and sells all our best players for a profit before going back to Namibia with full pockets. Maybe not now, maybe not us, but it's our game and our club because we are football.
Top post Shaper and that's my point too. As much as I dislike Cardiif as a club (and don't apologise for it) it's ridiculous the way that suspect owners with even more suspect motives are allowed to buy up football clubs in this country. The FA should hang their heads in shame. We've now learned that Tan's dealings on the stock market have been suspect and he's under investigation. We also know he had a payout from the Malaysian taxpayer to promote their country through CCFC. Needless to say the public there aren't particularly happy with that - nor with him.
I can never begin to understand the great rivalry between your two clubs and maybe some of the hatred that comes with that. Myself coming from a club with no true rivals, certainly nothing equal to the two dividing passions in Wales. However, I do believe this as a strong traditionalist. Football supporters need to stand together to fight the influence and takeover of our game. Whether that be club moves, colour changes, name changes, the cost of football, billionaire owners, all seater stadiums and much, much more...there should only be one consistent voice to them all that try to change our game...NO! and YES we all care. and until we all stick together, football will eventually sadly die as it was once known.
The rivalry/hatred goes beyond football. Many will tell you on here the reasoning about this. To me I have a brother in law who's a Cardiff fan and all I get is when there on the up, is permanent crap on how good they are etc. Well I can't wait for then to get relegated can't stand the bastards.
I agree with everything you say, brb - a united front is the only way to prevent owners behaving like this, but it's a Utopian vision I'm afraid. Fact is that up unil recently most Cardiff fans on their board would have given you both barrels the second you criticise their owner and I should know. Even now I think a few are reluctant to have a dig at him. Only a tiny minority opposed the change of kit/ badge and were abused by some of their own fans. When Swans fans expressed outrage we were shouted down by Cardiff fans. So when their own fans can't even show a united front it's a bit much asking supporters of other clubs to stand up for them. My son works in Caerphilly and the abuse he gets as a Swans fan is ridiculous. Needless to say he gives as good as he gets.
