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Rodgers - Take a Bow, Son!

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  1. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely fantastic to hear a Premier League Manager lay into Tan so publicly. But can you believe that on the Cardiff board one idiot actually said that this was Rodgers 'playing mind games' and that "once a Jack always a Jack". <doh> They really are the bitter end.

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  2. The Lone Rangel

    The Lone Rangel Active Member

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    Tan has invested his hard earned cash into Cardiff and is entitled to do as he wishes, including publically lambasting the manager who appears to have wasted £50m on players that are average at best.
     
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  3. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    WRONG! Why?

    1: Because he has loaned Cardiff the money. He is a speculator not an investor.

    2: It's open to him to PRIVATELY lambast the Manager if he thinks it's necessary. A public dressing down was completely inappropriate. The guy has money but zero class.

    3: Lastly, he'd already sacked their head of recruitment and replaced him with someone who is a friend of his son and who wasn't qualified to do the job, thus turning the club into a laughing stock.

    Just because an owner is entitled to do what he wants with a club doesn't mean he should. As Rodgers says, he doesn't understand football at all. Not one jot. Rodgers has gone up in my estimation for having the balls to publicly say so.
     
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  4. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    he does not have the right at all lone. Malky never signed the checks or his ex recruitment scout did they??
    This is just another step turning cardiff into a malaysian club based in cardiff. before long they will have all asian staff and that includes the manager....Rodgers is not the only manager who is astonished at the going ons at cardiff and tan has started to dismiss them as fans and would rather call them paying customers......A bit like using tesco's or Asda for your weekly shop and not being a big part of the club that without there would be no club...
     
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  5. ProjectVRD

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    Are you sure about that? His wealth is locked up in assets, he has little cash reserves compared to the clubs he wants to compete with. And those assets are not homes or art etc. it his businesses so he will not sell those off to fund Cardiff.

    Man Utd alone are worth more than Tan's entire business empire, factor in the whole Glazer portfolio and he is relatively small fry. And the Glazers are ofcourse tiny compared to the Sheikh, Roman and Usmanov who appears to gaining tract in influencing Arsenals progression. Then there is Fenway who own Liverpool and Levy is hardly skint whilst Spurs is hardly broke.

    In all Tan talks like a big boy but in reality he is not in the same league and unlikely ever will be, he wants and expects to compete for silverwear every season. He could sell everything in the summer excluding Cardiff City and still not have the cash put in a stable long term plan because his firesale would not have enough return to make the club level with the commercial operations at place up the top, let's not forget Tan has to repay debt that marks over 10% of everything has to his name.

    He is billionaire is US Dollar terms due to company value, not in British pound value.
     
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  6. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    I used the term 'money' loosely, Project. He's definitely a man of means.
     
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  7. The Lone Rangel

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    Irrelevant as to how he controls Cardiff. He does, and has put a significant chunk of his personal wealth at risk in the goal of their betterment.

    To be honest he's well within his rights to just wrap the whole mess up, claw back what he can and liquidate. If he were a rational businessman he would have done that last season.
     
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  8. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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  10. ProjectVRD

    ProjectVRD Well-Known Member

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    He is far from rational!

    "Tan, in fact, has been playing a game of hide-and-seek on the Malaysian stock exchange &#8211; delisting and relisting companies with alarming regularity as his need for cash ebbs and flows." Forbes.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/neerjaj...e-and-seek-on-the-bourse-whats-his-game-plan/

    In Leyman terms it means he is playing playboy with his companies on the stock markets to inject cash into his bank account, in fact he was refused a listing in that article because he was overpricing the shares. That is how little cash he actually has in his bank account.
     
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  11. ProjectVRD

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    Sorry but my sentiment differs. I don't like what he is doing, I don't like him, he has bitten off more than he can chew and Cardiff fans have been loyal to their club over the decades and deserve better than him. He is a potential Tony Petty.
     
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  12. PaGaNsWaN

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    Well that's it he's as good as gone. It's absolutely shocking the way Tan has delt with the club and with Malky in particular. I know we take the piss a bit but you really have to sorry for the real football fans of CCFC.
     
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  13. SA9JACK

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    It makes you wonder who he's got in mind to take over when he gets his wish and gets shot of Mackay. Who in their right mind would want to take that job on now after all the **** that comes with it from that tool?
    I never thought I'd say this, but I'm actually starting to feel for them. It's a joke.
    Mackay obviously isn't a yes man, and that's exactly what Tan wants. Good luck finding one
     
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  14. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    I'm not expressing any "sentiment",Project,merely pointing out that things are not too rosy over on the dark side.
     
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  15. Kifflom!

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    Some Cardiff fans on their board say that there will be a "queue of potential managers" wanting the job. I retorted that they won't get anyone who is in demand elsewhere and I stand by that.

    They think it'll be a Southampton situation where it'll turn out for the best in the end. Trouble is with Tan in charge I don't see it.
     
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  16. ProjectVRD

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    I will wait until Tan has left and dust has settled before taking the Mickey. I haven't done so yet since he took over except for the new coach thing on a few occasions, but as for what could happen to the club I will not bait them on it. I try to tell them my thoughts though, I sympathise with them.
     
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  17. SA9JACK

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    I can't see this making much difference. It's been obvious for a while that he's try to push Mackay out without having to pay him off, and fair play to Mackay, he's stood firm and dug his heels in.
    Why should he walk when threatened with the sack?
     
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  18. Kifflom!

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  19. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    good post and there can only be one outcome...

    tan is the one who should go and sell to sam the man if there is nobody else or they are doomed. there is not a cats hell of a chance of anyone decent jumping into bed so to speak with the way tan runs the club. I can see him installing more of his countrymen as his staff and that includes an asian manager that nobody has heard of.......
     
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  20. PaGaNsWaN

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    Just seen this on Twitter..
    Malky's awkward Tan shake after Cardiff's win over Man City says a lot about their relationship even back then.

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