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Niki Lauda launches attack on Lewis Hamilton after Canadian Grand Prix

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  1. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

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    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Sensationalist headlines from the Sun. ****s.

    I'm not normally one to stick up for Lewis, but he did nothing wrong in the Button crash. Also Lauda, despite being a great driver, is a complete dick. I take everything he says with a handful of salt.
     
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  3. Delete Me

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    Fair comment. But Lauda used to be quite close to Lewis a few years back, I wonder whats gone wrong?
     
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  4. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    thing is, it does have to be said, that's four crashes in 2 races, he makes very poor decisions when overtaking and has a tendancy to try and win the race at the first corner, he can't keep doing it or sooner or later it could end in tears when someone becomes airborne.
     
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  5. tomcat606

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    agree, and it might even get worse if he doesnt learn to handle the pressure.
     
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  6. Max Whiplash

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    I'm writing to the Toad to demand a six race ban at the very least; that'll learn 'im.
     
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  7. cosicave

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    One's nature might become modified gently over time, but it cannot be fundamentally altered.

    Before this race I wrote in another thread which compared Button and Hamilton (yeah, one of many but I usually steer clear!). Every coin has two sides and the exhilarating style which excites so many is likely to come undone occasionally. Obviously Hamilton has been involved in a lot of stuff recently but this has not always been the case, and on balance, surely we must weigh the number of successful overtaking manoeuvres he's completed relative to the few that have not worked out, as well as to consider that even Kobayashi has not equalled his overtake per race ratio in their respective F1 careers so far. (I will be happy to be corrected on this if I'm wrong, but this is my belief at the moment).

    But of course, Hamilton must get to grips with 'taking the rough with the smooth'… ;)
     
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  8. Max Whiplash

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    I agree, cosi. I think Lewis can handle the rough with the smooth as he showed in 2009 when he had that awful car. He seemed pretty composed yesterday after his accident but his Monaco outburst will not be easily forgiven.
     
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  9. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    It was Hamilton's fault - Button correctly followed the line of the previous car. He couldn't know Hamilton would try that side and there would be no vision.
    Even if he did - Hamilton took a big risk on Button moving out for him. So another mistake by a frustrated Hamilton.
     
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  10. EternalMSC

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    Same thing happened in Hungary last year, accept it was Schumacher's fault..?..
    Button was always moving to the right, as was Schumacher, Hamilton/Barrichello planted their cars in a wedge that was closing all the time and paid the price (well Hamilton did), Barrichello just crapped his pants and started crying.
     
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  11. genjigonzales

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    I think the difference was that Schumacher knew Barrichello was there and acted very stupidly. Button couldn't have known Hamilton was coming through and was simply taking his line.

    We all know Hamilton's a lot better than we've seen in the last two races. He's just rattled because he can see another WDC slipping away from him. Once he accepts it's gone he'll relax and be back on form.
     
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  12. Delete Me

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    Button in fairness stopped looking the split second Lewis made his move on the inside towards the pit wall. Jenson was taking the line behind whoever it was, and it was obvious where he was going.
     
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    I understand, Button was taking his line, Michael was on the opposite side (dirty side of the track). But similar events otherwise.
     
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  14. Benny

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    Hi all ive come over from the bbc forum.

    I am getting so mad with all this hamilton bashing, its gone beyond the joke! For Lauda to come out with the comment he did well for me its the straw that broke the camels back!!! That comment was disgraceful and completely unfounded! If the roles were reversed and it was hamilton or schumacher who put button in the wall then they would have been calling for his head end of!!! Button knew he was going to be there, for those who was saying he was just taking the racing line is a joke, you cannot take the racing line when someone is on it!!!!! Again had it been Hamilton who hit Alonso then again they would have been condeming it! But for Lauda to say he is going to kill someone is a joke. Not one of his accidents have been high speed other than the button incident which was caused by Button anyway!

    What is infuriating me the most though is that we are trying to promote over taking yet those who try are immediatley punished! So where does that leave us, it sad to say its a very sad state of affairs at present and couple that with the fact that soon there will be no wet races, F1 is turn into a joke. Its not racing anymore.

    If Hamilton changes who he is then F1 and Motor racing as a whole will be a much poorer place. It annoys me when drivers complain about not being able to overtake, you never hear Hamilton say that.

    Pretty soon they will all be wearing skirts (sorry that is actually offensive to women who have more balls then some of the current crop of drivers and stewards!!!) and driving with bubble wrap on their cars!
     
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  15. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    not remotely similar. Button had not known Hamilton would be so silly. Shuey tried to push Barrichello into the wall. About as bad a reflection on MSC as you could find. On public roads he'd have been done for dangerous, and it might have lead to manslaughter. Unforgiveable.
     
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    Berg, Nah, Button wasn't looking where he was going mate, he has admited he didn't see Lewis.

    Hamilton was doing what he always does, it's about time some of the f1 drivers became more aware that someone ie Lewis or Kobayaski may be overtaking them, after all it is motor racing.

    Kobayashi and Hamilton have raised the game regarding overtaking, its simply that the other drivers have not got used to these guy's squeezing through smaller holes yet.
     
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  17. Delete Me

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    Welcome to the circus Benny, it's been a long LONG! weekend lol.
     
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    When Michael moved it was obvious he saw Barrichello, when Button moved there was lots of spray and would have been harder to see Hamilton.

    Button was involved in the same number of incidents yesterday, just wondered why everyone is highlighting Hamilton? He just can't seem to do anything right at the moment by the people that love to hate him. I also thought it was getting ridicolous yesterday, every time drivers clipped, incident being investigated, it's getting to the point where drivers wont daren't overtake anyone for fear of being reprimanded.
     
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  19. Benny

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    Cheers Silver Arrow, nice to find some where to settle in after the demise of 606! lol
     
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    The Stewards have reviewed the Incident involving Car 3 (L. Hamilton) and Car 4 (J. Button) on their 7th
    lap of the race. The Stewards reviewed the lines of several cars, including the two cars involved, using
    multiple angles of video evidence over several laps, the speed traces of both drivers, the GPS tracking
    data from the cars and have heard the drivers and team representatives.
    The Stewards concluded that:
    1) Exiting Turn 13 there was a legitimate overtaking opportunity for Lewis Hamilton as his speed was
    greater than Jensen Button's.
    2) Both drivers took lines substantially similar to many of the other drivers, and did not move as far to
    the left as the preceding driver, Michael Schumacher. At the moment after Hamilton moved to the left to
    pass, Button looked into his mirror. It appears from the position of Hamilton at that moment [and is
    confirmed by the drivers] that Button was unlikely to have seen Hamilton.
    3) At the point of contact Button had not yet moved as far to the left of the track as he had on the
    previous lap, or that Schumacher had on that lap.
    The Stewards have concluded that it was reasonable for Hamilton to believe that Button would have
    seen him and that he could have made the passing manoeuvre. Further, the Stewards have concluded
    that it is reasonable to believe that Button was not aware of Hamilton’s position to his left.
    Therefore, the Stewards decide that this was a “racing incident” and have taken no further action.
     
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