I don't think Moyes has the charisma for the Man.Utd. role,and that's a very crucial part of managing that Club. Laudrup has it,as does a certain Roberto Martinez. Moyes' job is safe for the foreseeable future,provided that his team don't go belly up and slide down the table.
Different lengths, widths , conditions . short, long ,tall with all permutations being catered for I. Most of the PL clubs are similar , we are small fry compared to the likes of Villa , Chelsea. , now their impressive .
Phil, I think that players should motivate themselves. Given the privileged existence they lead ie playing football for a living; free first class foreign travel; VIP treatment; monthly salaries that it takes your average Joe a decade to earn plus the mansions and supercars they can afford etc etc, it's utterly pathetic that the manager should be expected to "motivate" them. Ok, Laudrup isn't a shouter, he isn't demonstrative but why should he be? He, like me and many others, expects his players to do the job they are extremely well paid to do, to the best of their ability. He trains them, coaches them and passes on the benefit of his considerable experience. The only thing left to do is to play for them and it is a savage indictment of many of our players, that he could probably do a better job even at his age. What a joke, our manager is probably the best player at the club. Players have a duty to manage/motivate themselves. If they sense they are not fit, they should work on it. If they can't shoot effectively, they should work on it. If their crossing is weak, they should work on it. If their heading ability is below par, they should work on it. If they need more muscle, get in the gym and work on it. All this is down to the players NOT Michael Laudrup. He is there to coach and train them, to try and explain tactics and shape etc. He should not be expected to do basic things that any self respecting footballer should already have in place. If they lack any of these basics then it is the players' responsibility to put in extra work, over and above routine training, to put it right. In their own time. These people are supposed to be professionals. They expect to be paid as professionals, so they should put in the work that is demanded of them to be as good as they can. Anything less is not good enough. Of course, some people think that when a manager is on the touchline screaming and bawling and waving his arms, he is being motivational. Ok, if that idea floats their boat then go with it, But it ain't so, buddy. It just ain't so.
Well said Ivor. I've been saying this all along. The haters here will always hate - we know who they are. Bitching and moaning because that's just what they do. They love it. How the **** anyone can blame Laudrup for the lack of being able to cross a ball on the run or make a simple pass I really don't know. Top post.
Wait till you see Man City's, the place is just mind blowing. 16 outdoor pitches, 1 indoor pitch a 7,000 seater stadium. Player accommodation where they will stay the night before games, swimming pools galore!!! And all they will have to do is walk over a bridge to the stadium. Oh and this is mainly for the Academy players not 1st team.
I missed that one from last season. What a difference a millionaire brings to the table. , our Academy have played at Exeter, two Bristol clubs , Arsenal , Chelsea, Southampton , Wolves, WBA, Villa, Cardiff,and what a contrast between all of them . Chelsea had to be the best whereas probably Cardiff (only because they use the University playing fields atm) and Bristol Rovers the poorest but thats what money can bring you. That doesn't reflect on the quality of some of the kids though, some will possibly make it as semi if not full professionals .
Another club on the up, Southampton another club that have just done new facilities again taking to the next level not just pitches by a full blown leisure centre. Swimming Pools etc.
Well if that's the case then ivor, why do managers get sacked? I mean the way you've got it so rapped up, it's all down to the players, so why do we have the Managerial merry go round? While I agree with some of what you say, your frustration with some of our inept play has you seemingly putting all the blame on the players doorstep. Players have been complaining about his training methods, do you think that might have something to do with it?
Your like a poisoned echo around here, get a life will you, not even Dai 'hates' Laudrup, supporters can rightly look to Laudrup for the issues, he is after all the Manager, and if things go pear shaped while on his watch, then he is responsible, or is that concept to difficult for you to digest!.......
Well some are not lined out, so not sure if they will all be full size, but no way was that number there, so maybe still a fair bit to do then!..................
Laudrup isn't perfect, Phil, and he will make mistakes. No manager will get it right all the time and no doubt there are things that Laudrup could do differently, do better. HOWEVER, take Ash Williams as an example, pretty fitting as he seems to be the one doing most of the complaining from what I understand. I suppose it was Laudrup's fault that Williams made that abysmal pass which put us on the back foot against Hull. Not for the first time has his loose play cost us goals and points. Laudrup's fault, eh? This catalogue of errors goes on and on and on spread between the players. Tremmel's weak punch, Jonjo's suicidal back pass, de Guzman usually failing to track his runners, Williams and Chico messing up a hoof down the middle from the keeper against Soton, most of the team being unable to find a decent cross between them etc etc etc etc etc. plus the general apathy, innaccuracy and slowness in passing that Laudrup has often commented upon. Not to mention the gutless lack of fight in some games, the Cardiff debacle in particular - something Williams has publicly apologised for. Perhaps Laudrup could have "motivated" the team by head butting Malky in the dugout!! Yes, I know I'm citing a lot of individual errors but, collectively, they mount up, there are too many and NOTHING TO DO WITH COACHING. They have cost us points, put pressure on the team and we have lost confidence as a result. Never mind the points the officials have cost us, we would be way up the table if players stopped making stupid mistakes and playing better with the mindset of a winning team. As it is, we are tentative, edgy and looking over our shoulders. Laudrup didn't coach any of that sh**e, it was down to the players, THEIR responsibility. I suppose Williams is going to maintain that that stupid, horrendous pass was the result of Laudrup's poor coaching. What I suggest is that players put their own house in order first before having the unmitigated gall to criticise the manager. As Laudrup has said, the Euro games have impacted on our league form. Well there's no European games until February to interfere with training, so let's see what the next few weeks will bring. But I'm not expecting anything at Norwich because no doubt the players will be exhausted after the way they hurled themselves non-stop about the pitch in Switzerland.
Why say "get a life" simply because I'm pointing out the truth? As far as Dai is concerned he fixates on certain figures and he's like a dog with a bone. You know this to be true after all these years. One minute it's Danny Graham, the next it's Jenkins (his favourite target) and now it's Laudrup. Same old same old. The fact I'm agreeing in full with ivor's posts only means that I agree with him, nothing more. There's no 'echo' abut it, poisonous or otherwise. I'm sure others do too. I fully understand the concept of the buck stopping with the manager but it's not that simple. As I've said how can you blame him for our players giving the ball away for fun in our last match for example? The answer is you can't. Ivor's post above hits the nail on the head. Sorry for agreeing though.
Have you ever stopped to consider that the players are not happy playing under him? Do you know what his Man Management skills are like? Did we play like this under Martinez, Sousa, Rodgers even? How close is he to the players? Does he get involved directly, or does he delegate? Is he aloof in his approach to the players? Clearly everyone who follows the Swans, are talking about 'what's going on' 'Something must be up' 'somethings not right'?
I don't think you understand how corrosive you can be! 'The haters here will always hate' not even Dia fits that one, so yes get a life!................
Because he's the manager. It's his job to manage, coach and motivate the players. Pick them when they're playing well, drop them when they're playing poorly. Sign good ones and get rid of the rubbish. Who else's fault could it possibly be?
