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It's not Lewis............

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by completely pogued, Jun 12, 2011.

  1. Scratchingvalleycat

    Scratchingvalleycat Active Member

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    I think Ron Dennis's body language said it all. Hamilton needs to get his head soughted out and quick. An apology to the team would be the first move and to his team mate the next. Button was taking the racing line and has every reason to expect the guy behind to recognise the limited value of mirrors in spray. I have supported Hamilton throughout his career (from before the formula 1 days) but the performance today was poor.
     
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  2. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    Miggins - how was schumacher on lewis dirty. Wise up
     
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  3. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    I agree with you.

    I think Button was surprised how quickly LH got on to him. He went to shut the door on LH but he was faster than he thought. You check other laps and Button doesn't go as far across as he did with LH. He went to stop him getting passed. But I do think LH should have been more patient. I think Button's outburst on the radio was a bit unprofessional seeing as he turned in on him.

    I don't think Schumi was being dirty. Just doing enough to put LH off.
     
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  4. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    When he saw Lewis was going to get passed him he adjusted his line and hit him on purpose, and he did it because he is, and always has been, a dirty cheat.
     
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  5. Basil_Brushzenberger

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    Hammy vs Webber: Hammy's fault
    Hammy vs Schuey: 50/50
    Hammy vs Button: Hammy's fault

    Maybe Hamilton can console himself with a nice little chat with Rihanna, who, incidentally, could well be a MK Ultra mind controlled slave.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzSoWcSgvR8&feature=fvsr

    Poor display from Hamilton today.
     
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  6. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    Basil. How can the Schumi - LH "incident" be 50/50? Really? It wasn't even an incident. It was only brought up by the commentary because it was Schumi and LH. That's the kind of things I like to see in racing. Cars going side by side into corners.

    The Webber incident was just down the conditions. LH again should have been more patient but that's racing.

    I'm not gonna bother about the Button and LH incident. I think LH was being to impatient and Button reacted slowly.
     
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  7. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    thats some ****ed up **** there basil. will give it more thought and get back to it when i get a bit more time
     
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  8. Basil_Brushzenberger

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    I disagree. Button was following the racing line. He was taking the same line as Schumacher ahead of him. Hamilton was too far back to make the pass. And what evidence do you have to support your claim that Button is "a dirty cheat"?
     
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  9. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    I think Miggins meant Schumacher, not Button.
     
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  10. Basil_Brushzenberger

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    lol. It sure is, Jacky. If you're interested in the subject I recommend the lectures of Fritz Springmeier (who is a very boring speaker unfortunately) and the Youtube videos of esoteric kitten. It is claimed that mind controlled slaves are used as spies, sex slaves, honey traps, music stars, actors and sportspeople. In fact one of the people on the F1 grid seems like a good bet being one, having a sex kitten as a girlfriend as he does.
     
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  11. Basil_Brushzenberger

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    Fair enough. I only mentioned it because somebody else did earlier in the thread. Not much in it really, you're right.
     
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  12. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    There are always higher risk in overtaking in the wet. You have to be confident in your own ability and hope the driver ahead can see you.

    He had more than enough room for a pass on Webber but he was caught out by conditions. The incident with Button was unfortunate. He was clearly way faster and in those conditions, maybe the team should have taken control and told them to hold position and ask Button to give way to Hamilton if he was holding him up (and vice versa if Hamilton was holding up Button). Allowing them to race like that wad crazy on the teams part.
     
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  13. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    ha ha, i got a pasting for posting a comment about the esoteric agenda in reference to the ICC on the general chat board
     
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  14. Delete Me

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    I can't be botherd to get involved into this ****storm.
     
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  15. Basil_Brushzenberger

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    The ICC?! Where's my tinfoil hat?!

    I'm certainly not about to categorically say anthing about MK Ultra sportstars, but it is a subject I'm interested in, and because two likely kittens, Scherzinger and Rihanna are present in the McLaren garage, it's fun to throw it out there.

    I'm intrigued to know what nefarious activities the ICC are up to.
     
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  16. ManchesterLizard

    ManchesterLizard New Member

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    why would a driver deliberatly hit another driver? Come on, your a racing driver, you want to win the GP so you think I know I'll take my nearest opposition out by hitting him and in the process risk taking myself out. The only driver that could afford to take another driver out and himself is Vettel!

    It was sad to see Hamilton leave the GP, but I don't think there was any blame there. Maybe Hamilton was just a little too desperate to pass quickly, he had a whole race ahead, however I wouldn't want him to change the driver he is, because then he wouldn't be Hamilton.
     
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  17. fevriul

    fevriul Well-Known Member

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    The Stewards have reviewed the Incident involving Car 3 (L. Hamilton) and Car 4 (J. Button) on their 7th
    lap of the race. The Stewards reviewed the lines of several cars, including the two cars involved, using
    multiple angles of video evidence over several laps, the speed traces of both drivers, the GPS tracking
    data from the cars and have heard the drivers and team representatives.
    The Stewards concluded that:
    1) Exiting Turn 13 there was a legitimate overtaking opportunity for Lewis Hamilton as his speed was
    greater than Jensen Button's.
    2) Both drivers took lines substantially similar to many of the other drivers, and did not move as far to
    the left as the preceding driver, Michael Schumacher. At the moment after Hamilton moved to the left to
    pass, Button looked into his mirror. It appears from the position of Hamilton at that moment [and is
    confirmed by the drivers] that Button was unlikely to have seen Hamilton.
    3) At the point of contact Button had not yet moved as far to the left of the track as he had on the
    previous lap, or that Schumacher had on that lap.
    The Stewards have concluded that it was reasonable for Hamilton to believe that Button would have
    seen him and that he could have made the passing manoeuvre. Further, the Stewards have concluded
    that it is reasonable to believe that Button was not aware of Hamilton’s position to his left.
    Therefore, the Stewards decide that this was a “racing incident” and have taken no further action.
     
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