Another thread about all of this seams silly. The Foxes Trust have released a statement about the name change. http://foxestrust.co.uk/2794/supporters-direct-statement-hull-city-afc-name-change? Supporters Direct Statement – Hull City AFC Name Change Published December 12, 2013 | By IanB As an organisation, Supporters Direct believes that football clubs are something different, something special. You don't get your ashes scattered in Tesco, or have it tattooed on your arm. The relationship between fans and their clubs transcends normal loyalties. So, like most of you, we’ve been angry at what is happening at Hull City AFC. The cases of Coventry City, Cardiff City and as far back as Wimbledon in 2002, to name but a few, have offered stark enough warnings of what happens when you leave the stewardship of important social, cultural and historical institutions (for that is what football clubs are) in the hands of a wealthy elite with short-term interests and a short-term outlook. The very identity of football clubs, and their fans and communities, is simply too important to be entrusted to temporary owners, who are generally more interested in what they can take out of a club rather than what they can put back in, and whose decision-making does not take account of the wider interests of those who count their loyalty in tens of years and generations. The most frustrating aspect is that these issues can be so easily avoided by the adoption of some simple principles, and there is no reason why they can't be acted upon right now. - Firstly certain matters regarding the intrinsic identity of a club (colours, name, badge home ground) should only be changed with the agreement of a club's supporters (through a simple and open democratic process); - Secondly that this requirement be included within FA rules so that it is mandatory for all clubs. This simple change would have a significant effect. It was exactly this type of reform that was contemplated by the CMS Select Committee as part of its Inquiry into Football Governance in 2011 and 2012. The recommendations from that Inquiry are still gathering dust and the deadline of a year that the Select Committee set the football authorities for meaningful action is nearly up. So whilst they fiddle, the very soul of some of our country's most important sporting and community assets continue to go up in smoke. For more about SD, please head to our website http://www.supporters-direct.org/homepage/what-we-do/faqs Press Statement Ends
What I'm suggesting Stanley, and probably didn't explain it very well is the following: There may be an interested buyer out there. AA is staring at a further drain on his financial resources if he holds on to City, with a lot of ill-feeling and animosity towards him from fans & the football world in general as a result of his "illogical" insistence of the name change. He wants to get out & so has a selling price in mind (lets say 70 million) which AA would be happy to get to cover his investment so far & maybe get a small profit out of his endeavors to date - which essentially were misguided, even naive, because he misjudged Hull City Council's willingness to "give away" the KC stadium. The potential suitor is fully aware of AA's strong desire to implement the name change and it's negative impact on the lifeblood (the fans) of the club. The potential buyer decides to use this situation as a bargaining tool - i.e. "Ok AA, I'll pay you the 70 million if you pull off the name change because I agree with you that it has substantial global marketing financial benefits. If you can't pull it off, however, I'll buy you out for, say, 60 or 65 million, what do you think ?". AA ponders these two alternatives - 70 million if I get the name changed, with no net loss on my original stake, or 60 ( or 65) million if I fail with the name change, but I get out of the encumbrance of holding on to the club and the potential of having to throw in more of my own money ( cash or loans) to try to get my original stake back. I don't understand this football business lark & I'm getting a lot of grief. Maybe it's time to cut my losses (60 or 65 million deal), but I could break even or thereabouts (70 mill) if I do get the new name sorted. Sounds good to me...let's shake on it ? The suitor has done his business case homework (either price he can handle), and has plenty of money to throw around on player recruitment, maybe offering a decent price to the Council to purchase the stadium. He has seen the trend in foreign ownership of Premier League clubs, sees the potential of Hull City AFC (another Chelsea, Man U., Man City ?) and spots an owner of such a club (AA) who is somewhat vulnerable (no resources to leverage his ownership and getting a lot of grief from fans & press). What's more, the suitor concludes, AA may actually come out of selling his club to me with a semblance of respect - he saved the club from oblivion a few years ago & found a suitable buyer with tons of financial resources to move the club forward to bigger & better ( and lucrative) heights. EVERYBODY is happy ? The suitor is using AA & his ham-fisted mission to further discredit him in the eyes of the fans, and getting a cheaper price if AA fails in his name-change quest. He'll pay the higher price if need be, and promptly change the name back on gaining ownership to bring the fans back onside and garner instant cred. Wouldn't it be great if all this speculation were true ?
tc - you'd make a great novelist! It's a good possible scenario though, I'll allow that. We have no clue, really. We can only oppose his name-change plan and hope that the FA decides it can't be allowed. The alternative? He wins his application and loses himself a huge amount of fans' goodwill.
City of Hull to change name to Tigeropolis There could be name changes afoot on Humberside, reports Back of the Net's John Foster... Kingston-upon-Hull City Council have formally moved to change the name of their city to Tigeropolis, following a period of consultation in which it emerged that Hull’s global marketability was being stunted by a “dull name” with a “poor international recognition factor”. Simon Norman, member of what will soon be known as Tigeropolis City Council, has been a vocal supporter of the change, which he believes will be enough to make his city internationally competitive. “The name Hull has been holding this city back for too long,” he told reporters. “People hear ‘Hull’ and they think ‘dull’, and ‘hell’, and ‘history’, and ‘William Wilberforce', all of which are frankly boring. They certainly don’t think ‘top four city’. “But Tigeropolis shouts ‘confident’, and ‘dangerous’, and ‘apex predator’, which are things everyone likes being called. I know I do.” However, there has been grassroots opposition to the change from residents of Hull, many of whom appear unwilling to undo a thousand years of history and begin referring to themselves as Tigerpolitans. The “My Hull Dead Hands” campaign has held a number of demonstrations calling on Norman and his colleagues to abandon their proposals, claiming it is not in Hull’s best interests to try and compete with excitingly-named foreign places like Chihuahua and Buffalo. But Norman has given their objections short shrift. “Just think how much more successful Philip Larkin would have been had he worked not at the University of Hull, but at Tigeropolis College,” he retorted. “And if he hadn’t called himself a poet, but a 'words panther'. And if his middle name hadn’t been Arthur, but Snow Leopard. Then he might be worth supporting.” The case continues. http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/city-hull-change-name-tigeropolis#Thsw3M4K8yB6PT32.99
This thread obviously would have still existed, it's merely the timing that's changed. Tenfoot is not a member of any fan group that I'm aware of and I didn't come across his name on the CTWD memberships which were all packed last night.
Statement: Hull City Name Change "In light of the news that Hull City's owner Dr Assem Allam has announced his intention to officially change the club's name from Hull City AFC to Hull Tigers the Chelsea Supporters Trust would like to back Hull City Supporters and their "No To Hull Tigers" campaign. We call on The FA to ensure proper supporter consultation and to respect the wishes of Hull City supporters on this matter." -- Chelsea Supporters Trust http://chelseasupporterstrust.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/statement-hull-city-name-change.html
http://palacetrust.org.uk/2013/12/13/no-to-hull-city-name-change/? Crystal Palace Supporters' Trust backing us, too "We at CPST are fully behind the No to Hull City name change campaign, and urge as many people as possible to sign the petition backing the campign which can be found here: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...erse-the-unwanted-rebranding-of-hull-city-afc With over 10,000 signatures already, this is a cause close to supporters’ hearts, as empahsised by a recent statement from Supporters Direct: As an organisation, Supporters Direct believes that football clubs are something different, something special."
LET THE FA KNOW Now that the club has officially written to the Football Association requesting to change our playing name to "Hull Tigers", the time is right to focus our campaign on the FA. And there is no better time to be doing so than during our home game against Stoke City. The FA are celebrating 150 years of their history this year. As part of the celebrations, Saturday 14 December has been designated Ebenezer Morley Day, in honour of the Hull-born man who was the FA's first secretary, and is considered one of the founding fathers of Association Football. FA dignitaries will be at the KC to watch the game, so let's make our voices heard loud and clear! In addition to the "City Till I Die" song we sing at 19.04 minutes into every game, we are encouraging City supporters to sing two extra songs. Join us in singing "We say no, FA, we say no" and "Everywhere we go, let the FA know, we are Hull City", and keep the songs going at future games. And that's not the only way you can help us make sure, over the coming weeks, that the custodians of the game understand the strength of feeling on this subject. As promised, we will producing and distributing "No To Hull Tigers" postcards to send to the FA. In the meantime, if you feel passionately about the name change proposal, you can contact the FA by the following means: Fans' View phoneline: 0844 980 0699 Email: [email protected] Post: The Football Association, Wembley Stadium, PO Box 1966, London, SW1P 9EQ Twitter: @FA Sign our petition: http://www.citytillwedie.com/petition Let the FA know! CITY TILL WE DIE
First he changes the name of the holding company to Hull City Tigers Ltd, and insists, wrongly, that he has changed the name of the club itself. Then when he wants to become âHull Tigersâ, he submits a proper application to the appropriate authority. Something doesn't quite add up there, does it? The man has painted himself as a buffoon, because he is one. He might have an in-depth knowledge of generators, but he clearly can't run a football club
I suspect that the FA will Demand Dr Allam first proves that any name change has greater benefits than staying as Hull City. This whole issue could be left in limbo for a couple of years at least. Twt as always.
I know the answer to that one. Do I get a gold star Sir! The answer is £70 million OR 764 million Eqyptian dollars.
I think Allam's biggest mistake was saying he wanted a name-change because he "doesn't want Hull City Council basking in our glory". Unfortunately, some people are too stupid to even understand this basic - and yet crucial - point, which flies well and truly in the face of his claims to be doing this to attract foreign investment. Not, of course, that money matters.
The Fail has an article on name-change, followed by a questionnaire - even has options for both 'pro' and 'apathetic' fans.... http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull...-plans-urged/story-20318565-detail/story.html
