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Dave & louis211 vs Tobes

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Nov 25, 2013.

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  1. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Watch who you are calling senile there!! Can't really comment on the bastard bit :biggrin:
     
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  2. louis211

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    I just have one question

    If the initial odds are completely based on statistics and not the customer then why say if England played France at present a pretty even match ( we're both ****e) would England be favourites in English bookies and France be favourites in French bookies.
    This or similar events obviously take into account the geographic location of the client and their perceived betting trend.Hence it does affect the initial odds.
    Same with any event, the ability to sell the product (and hence the opinion of the customer) will be taken into consideration.
     
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  3. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Was wondering the same thing Louis, but didn't fancy looking down the barrel of tobes gun to get the answer.:bandit:
     
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  4. Tobes

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    The simple answer is that at the OUTSET they wouldn't be different.

    Check out odds for say tonights game in Italy between Napoli & Arsenal, you'll get the same odds from UK or Italian based bookies, as the probabilities are the same.
     
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  5. louis211

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    Can you tell me the name of the local bookies in Napoli so i can check it out, if you do not know, i presume you will have a friend who does
     
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  6. Foredeckdave

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    Finally, a voice of reason. Without a customer response to the odds that have been calculated they are merely an academic calculation of risk. Those odds may be offered as calculated or adapted by the bookie to meet the response of the customer and your illustration demonstrates that clearly. The risk calculation of the match should produce the same result irrespective of the country in which it is conducted. However the customer response to the result of the same calculation is likely to be very different and hence the odds themselves will be changed to met the local CUSTOMER environment.

    Page, shame on you. When he's losing he always resorts to Transference. Sad really
     
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  7. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Not getting involved dave.

    #imallergictobulletsinthekneecaps

    <whistle>
     
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  8. Tobes

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    Prove your point with tonights Marseille game then smart arse
     
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  9. louis211

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    I was worried about that myself,and afraid a morning duel would be the result, but i had a plan up my sleeve........i would suggest bringing a friend who plays football and as he seems to know everyone i was hoping he would be mates with Jelavic.
    What's the "odds" on him hitting the target!!
    Have to get Tobes to ask his Croation bookie friend

    fullofshite#
    nobodylikesaknowitall#
    hesworsethanthemissus#
    thereforehasnofriends#
     
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  10. louis211

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    I was only asking
    Tobes are you a Virgo, or an only child
     
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  11. Foredeckdave

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    Grow up soft lad! YOU made the claim, louis211 challenged YOU to prove it. Therefore, either admit you're wrong, retract the claim or get on and prove it. It's your responsibility not his!

    BTW the claim was made regarding the Napoli and Arsenal game in Naples and has nothing to do with any game in Marseilles.

    So get on and get it done.
     
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  12. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    <laugh><ok>
     
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  13. Tobes

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    As usual you're incapable of actually reading the posts properly & in your eagerness to leap in, have (yet again) got it totally wrong.

    The Francophile made the claim that odds for a France vs England game would differ on either side of the channel. He offered **** all evidence to back that claim up, so I've given him the opportunity to prove it.

    I merely used tonights Arsenal game as an example for him to come back with. He came back with a sarcastic response about not knowing anyone in Italy, so I've given him a game tonight in his native France for him to prove his theory with.

    So pipe down you daft old twat
     
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  14. louis211

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    What???
    Who are they even playing
    Oh yes, well (not being a betting man:eek:) i would presume there are far more fans in Germany who think Borrussia have a better chance and vice versa in France about Marseillle, and believe it or not the bookies are not stupid
    So my guess would be the better odds would be available in the relevant country/region

    That is a very bizzare example

    What are the odds on England winning the world cup around the globe

    What were the respective Ashes odds in UK and Aus at the beginning

    Are you tring to tell me they were all the same

    I may not be smart but i am not that stupid and gullible

    Let it go, some of your points are valid, but some of them people will argue against, it is your inability to hold your hands up and say, even maybe, i might be wrong that losses you respect
    Nobody is right all of the time Tobes even you, i mean fancy picking the blue ****e over the mighty reds, or did one of your fountain of knowledge mates advise you on this as well
     
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    Amusing though it may be at times, I'm uneasy with the fact that a thread gets turned from a discussion of a particular topic to a cage-fight between a couple of posters.
    I can't even remember what this started out as, but isn't it a bit unfair on the thread starter?
     
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  16. Foredeckdave

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    True to form!

    YOU made the claim and then tried to duck the responsibility for proving it. My comments were totally justified. Now either put up or shut up.

    As for Louis211 being a Francophile what evidence do you have for that or has Mummy taught you a new word?
     
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  17. Tobes

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    You really are a total tit.

    What claim have I made here? In your own time like..............
     
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  18. louis211

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    Because i use an English v France game as a random example.........I am French
    Now for a person who is always requesting proof to back something up.

    ......proof enough to Tobes i am French


    WOW

    eas
     
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  19. Tobes

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    No lad, you're trying to tell me that they're not the same, but not offering anything to back that up.

    If you can. I'll accept that fact, until then don't ****ing preach to me about not being able to 'hold your hands up' as you sound like dopey Dave
     
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  20. Tobes

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    We're BOTH ****e you said, so given your audience isn't French here, then by a process of elimination that makes you French doesn't it clever ****?
     
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