Seems we might snatch jones off united after all...

The contract stipulation is that teams matching or exceeding the buyout clause amount can talk to the player, so if United were the only persuer Blackburn would have no choice, but if several teams exceed the clause amount it is not up to the player alone where he goes depending on the actual wording of the contract. It would seem as per UNiteds increased offer that this is the case

The devil is in the details and we don't know those details, so 19red time you shut up, proof in the pudding in that UNited have had to up their offer because of Liverpools offer and maybe Arsenals which indicates that the player alone cannot choose which team but also doesn't have to accept another team's offer either. It needs agreement by both the club and the player before he can go, hence 20m in whatever form increase.

 

KPR and others.

I dont need to see the contract. His agent who will know the contract inside out has seen it and states it cannot be challenged.

therefore...

thats it.

 

Exactly, has anyone confirmed higher bids have gone in ?

It's all just speculation. However if there is a release clause saying the player can leave for X amount and any clubs meet that amount then contractually Blackburn have to sell to any club who bids over the amount with the choice resting with the player.

Blackburn don't have to sell only to United hence why he spoke to 3 clubs but he chose United and it seems united met the buy out clause.

However it is all speculation

 

As stated before do we actually know if anyone has increased their offer. The whole thread is based on speculation.

 

I have no idea why they have bid.

I mean, hes already rejected all but United.

What if he was to reject Liverpool and Arsenal again thus voiding the bids anyway? United still have the only solid bid.

 

Indeed.


maybe there was something in the contract that if with multiple bidders whoever he chose had to match the highest bid with cash and addons

 

This is where it gets complicated.
Blackburn accepted more than one bid..They accepted 3 bids.
If they accepted one bid(Man Uniteds)...Then the player would be free to talk to them and them alone,which he did.But seeing as they accepted Arsenals bid and Liverpools bid,and the only club thus far he has not had a chance to talk to was Liverpool,then it gets messy.This is what Blackburn are kicking up over.They believe there has been underhand dealings done and being the selling club,they want to make as much money out of their player as they possibly can.They have every right to so so.
We all know that Liverpool put in a bigger bid than United did,and so did Arsenal.However the player himself wants to join Man United,and there is nothing wrong with that.However Blackburn want the relevant compensation and this is what is holding the deal up.They can and will demand more than the £16 million and may get it in add-ons.

 

Wonder if Kenny will get this angry with Jones haha.

 

How does it void those bids? I do love the legal knowledge all the manc fans appear to have...not!

Yes the player has his preference, and he may well refuse to go to Liverpool and Arsenal, but he doesn't have the right to chose. If Blackburn only accept Liverpool's offer (16M only triggers the sale, in the case of higher bids, the club holding the player's registration have the right to accept the highest bid.) we now reach an impasse. The player has the right to refuse to move to the highest bidder, if he wishes, and this is where it gets tricky. Do Blackburn have the right to demand that since the £22M has been offered, that all other bidders have to match that? Or can man U and the player hold their nerve, and do Blackburn have to accept the £16M bid? I somehow can't see Blackburn's contract leaving them that exposed. So I see legal arguments going back and forth, maybe even a court case, which all costs, so we may well see an improved bid from man u, and Kenny having a giggle in the corner. Just before he puts a £28M bid in for Ashley Young ;-)

 

The player rejected the other bids thus rendering them void.

As has been said, we dont know the wording of the contract.

I know a man who does....his agent......and hes confirmed everything we need to know. It cannot be challenged.

 

Erm....

A player cannot move without agreeing personal terms so if he rejects the terms....the bid....well it no longer counts as its been rejected by the player.

Legal knowledge? Not needed as its so bloody simple.

 

I have no idea either why they have bid higher UNLESS the buyout is not as simple as some people are claiming.

As for him rejecting all other bids, was that him rejecting those clubs outright and saying "I only want to move to utd" or "if those other clubs come back with better offers then maybe I could be tempted"?

He would not be the first player to choose a club based on what they offered him financially, not that I would want him to come to us on that basis but you cannot blame a player for using that tactic to get a better deal for themselves.

As you see there is plenty we can all speculate on but we will not know anything definite until the deal is done, but if it was all so simple and clear cut you have to ask why has the deal not been done by now.

 

The thing is Man United will get Phil Jones thats 100% certain...but it won't be for £16 million and thats 100% certain too.
Blackburn with Kenny's assistance have United by the balls and intend squeezing every penny they require out of United.

 

£16.5million

 

Gotta love the way U1R callls te word of a scumbag lying agent fact, or that we should trust it. A football agent said something and thats all we need to know, omfg

Ohh Mercy.

 

LOL I think you will find that it is the club and not the player that holds the players registration documents, and so it is the selling club that decides if a bid is rejected. or void. Blackburn can void Manchester's bid, as it is too low for their liking. We will see how it comes out in the wash, but it will not be as simple as the manc fans envisage it.

 

You clearly havent taken into account the higher fee would mean a higher pay day for his agent so for him to come and say its pointless sort of says something dont you think.

 

Erm........yeh......sorry but fail

If a player doesnt want to move to a club, guess what?

Go on I am sure you can figure it out, its pretty easy.

Let me know if you need some help though, Im always happy to help those in need.

 

Yeah pretty sure utd will get him, it might be that they do get him for the release clause price of £16.5M but have to give him a load more in terms of image rights, longer contract, sell on deal or whatever.

The only thing I am certain about is that this deal will cost utd more in the long run than they originally thought.

 

the 16million release clause is in fact a release clause but the small print <damn small print> states he will only be released for that fee if no other offer of greater value is recieved