F1 2014 Season: Lineup's - Rumours - News

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I understand that, but we are already down by a lot (5 odd seconds per lap) and we add another 3+ seconds a lap that doesn't constitute maintains speed - the modern tracks are far safer as wells!
 
Smithers said:
I understand that, but we are already down by a lot (5 odd seconds per lap) and we add another 3+ seconds a lap that doesn't constitute maintains speed - the modern tracks are far safer as wells!
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What era are you comparing with the speed difference though?

Take Interlagos, which is one of the few tracks where there has been no changes over the years, in 1990, the fastest race lap was 1:19.899 on lap 55. The fastest lap in 2013 was 1:15.436 on lap 51. Fastest ever race lap was in 2004 at 1:11.473.

They have to initially peg back the speed a lot, as over the years the designers will claw it all that back.
 
Would be good if they binned off tracks like Monaco and let the designers go for it. Tracks like Silverstone and Spa would be fine for 300mph race cars.
 
I was just looking in general - Monza fastest race lap is a 1:20 ish and the fastest race lap this year was Lewis on a mid 1:25.
Interlagos lap record is 1:09.8 (quali I think) and as you say the fastest race lap is a 1:11.4

I appreciate that they now carry fuel but these are fastest lap like for like which consistutes lowish fuel. I dont dispute that the cars can go faster on low fuel but if we look at the Mclarens pole in 2012 which was in the dry was a mid 1;12 which os 3 seconds slower than the 2004 time.
 
Smithers said:
I was just looking in general - Monza fastest race lap is a 1:20 ish and the fastest race lap this year was Lewis on a mid 1:25.
Interlagos lap record is 1:09.8 (quali I think) and as you say the fastest race lap is a 1:11.4

I appreciate that they now carry fuel but these are fastest lap like for like which consistutes lowish fuel. I dont dispute that the cars can go faster on low fuel but if we look at the Mclarens pole in 2012 which was in the dry was a mid 1;12 which is 3 seconds slower than the 2004 time.
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If the regs weren;t changed, it would be frightening to think how fast the cars could now go. Sub 1 min possible?

Think is, if the cars are engineered to go as fast as the tracks will allow, it would reduce the chances of overtaking as there would simply be no scope for a following car to go faster.

There has to be a happy medium somewhere on the speed aspect before it detracts from the racing aspect.
 
Valid point, I hadn't really looked at it that way. I think preventing cars from going any faster than the ultimate pace we have seen in the past makes sense, I suppose slowing them down is open for debate.
 
So that's why Marussia haven't announced Bianchi's teammate. I thought something was up after Brazil, because in the past Marussia have named their line-up just after the final race of the season.

It would be nice to see Marussia sign a decent second driver, like Gutierrez or di Resta. If they finish 10th next year they'll get a huge increase in prize money, so it would make sense to sign a talented driver over a pay driver.
 
Forza Bianchi said:
So that's why Marussia haven't announced Bianchi's teammate. I thought something was up after Brazil, because in the past Marussia have named their line-up just after the final race of the season.

It would be nice to see Marussia sign a decent second driver, like Gutierrez or di Resta. If they finish 10th next year they'll get a huge increase in prize money, so it would make sense to sign a talented driver over a pay driver.
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He did finish EVERY race, so is at least a reliable driver. Bianchi appears to be a very quick driver, so how woudl anyone stack up against him? If suddenly di Resta or Gutierrez signs and match Bianchi, surely that then asks questions about Bianchi's actual pace?

Chilton has shown himself to be a solid and safe pair of hands (hardly any accident damage to dent their budget). For a small team, that's probably the perfect balance with someone like Bianchi alongside him.

Besides, could you imagine the moaning that would come from di Resta after every Q1 about the car not being quick enough!?
 
I think VDG would be a reasonable signing alongside Bianchi. I cant see any established driver sacrificing there career for 0 points.

VDG brings Cash plus some talent. just needs to learn about blue flags some more
 
Caterham, have they announced their line-up yet?
Sergio not confirmed as the second FI driver yet?
Sauber still to announce anyone for their team?
Di Resta still hanging onto a chance to drive in F1 by his finger tips?
McLaren yet to announce their new Title sponsor?
I still can't believe its not butter isn't butter!
 
When is the Force India Christmas dinner? Vijay usually announces the line up then. I would love to see Di Resta go on a rampage flipping the dinner tables over when he finds out he doesn't have a seat
 
allsaintchris. said:
He did finish EVERY race, so is at least a reliable driver. Bianchi appears to be a very quick driver, so how woudl anyone stack up against him? If suddenly di Resta or Gutierrez signs and match Bianchi, surely that then asks questions about Bianchi's actual pace?

Chilton has shown himself to be a solid and safe pair of hands (hardly any accident damage to dent their budget). For a small team, that's probably the perfect balance with someone like Bianchi alongside him.
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It's impressive for a rookie to be so consistent, but he was usually in his own race at the back. Chilton finished every race but his results would have put Marussia 11th this year. If Marussia want to secure 10th or higher next year, they need two fast drivers. Bianchi can not always be relied on to get the results, especially if engine reliability is a problem next year.

allsaintchris. said:
Besides, could you imagine the moaning that would come from di Resta after every Q1 about the car not being quick enough!?
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Actually... I would like to see that :D
 
As much as I think he's a total joke as a competitive F1 driver, he did finish every race, and with the new regulations and engines there's a good chance the slowest driver could score points due to reliability issues, a consistant finisher could be exactly what a team at the back need.

I doubt his dads business will sponsor F1, reinsurance doesn't need exposure, as it's not something anyone who isn't in the insurance business at a high level would ever need
 
Miggins said:
As much as I think he's a total joke as a competitive F1 driver, he did finish every race, and with the new regulations and engines there's a good chance the slowest driver could score points due to reliability issues, a consistant finisher could be exactly what a team at the back need.

I doubt his dads business will sponsor F1, reinsurance doesn't need exposure, as it's not something anyone who isn't in the insurance business at a high level would ever need
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My point exactly. No point having two young gun-ho chargers who are quick but could bin it and the team still miss out. They have a tortoise and a hare, so one of them will win! Who knows, maybe Max will perform a lot better speed-wise next year with a season under his belt and the gap to Bianchi might close to a few tenths, rather than half a second or more. The cars were that bad though that in reality it made little difference overall.

If, however, he does not bring any money to the team now, then chances are they are going to look elsewhere as there are plenty of drivers with some cash looking for a seat.
 
Soon they'll be giving everybody points just for turning up.

Will be like sports day at a primary school. yay, everyone's a winner, no losers here.
 
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