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Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by YorkieLancsHampyLondoner, Dec 5, 2013.

  1. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    Evening Hoppers. It's four matches on from our little wager.

    Incredibly Town won three out of the four matches. A fourth win would have put Town just ahead
    of Leeds (either by virtue of goals scored or goal difference), but as I asserted four wins on the
    bounce would not be enough to put us in the play off zone.

    3 Burnley 18 10 6 2 29 13 16 36
    4 Derby 18 9 4 5 35 25 10 31
    5 Reading 18 8 7 3 27 20 7 31
    6 Blackpool 18 8 7 3 22 16 6 31
    7 Ipswich 18 8 5 5 ? ? 7+ 29
    8 Leeds 18 9 2 7 26 20 6 29

    As it happens, we have closed the gap by just one point by way of underlining the
    mammoth task for us to make the play offs from our standing start even in this kind
    of form.
     
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  2. Hoppersblue10

    Hoppersblue10 Well-Known Member

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    Cheers Hampy, dug this out from the thread in question & have put in the last 4 points total.

    Just for you Hampy, going by your suggestion that we win our next four & going by the 8 teams above us do exactly the same as their last four games, by my calculations that would put us 5th….!

    Team - Last four games points total - points total after same results from next four games;

    Brighton - 5pts - new total 23pts – actual = 25pts
    Derby - 7pts - new total 23pts – actual = 31pts
    Wigan - 5pts - new total 24pts – actual = 22pts
    Blackburn - 4pts - new total 24pts – actual = 23pts
    Leeds - 6pts - new total 26pts – actual = 29pts
    Watford - 4pts - new total 26pts – actual = 24pts
    Forest - 4 pts - new total 27 pts – actual = 28pts
    Reading - 4pts - new total 27pts – actual = 31pts

    Town would be on 29pts – actual = 26pts

    And as I suggested not one of these teams has produced more than 2 wins in their last four..!
    Only two teams in the whole division have won more than two games in the last four & that is the top two.

    In summary I think we would all agree that Town did much better over the last 4 games than expected and have now firmly put us in the PO picture, so long as we get another good result on Saturday.

    Would we all have took this position after our last 4 games, of course we would.!

    Out of the 9 teams I included (Not Burnley Hampy);
    6 have got more points over the last 4 in comparison to the previous 4 (inc Town)
    3 have got less
    Also Huddersfield have put a very good run together to put themselves in the mix, should be a good game Saturday.!
     
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  3. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Except for Derby Co in 4th place who have won all 4 games, Leeds who have won 3 (4 out of 5) <ok>
     
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  4. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    Thai : FYI I think that's a comment from the original thread.

    As I think I stated then, purely by law of averages if no-one has won three out of four you can be fairly sure someone will in the next four.

    That's why it's not good news for Town because we've only made up one point and it will be a tall order to carry on and end up winning 6 out of 8.

    Having said that, Blackpool have dropped like a stone and Town have put themselves on the front row of the grid to capitalise.

    Derby look unstoppable after dropping Clough. Let's hope we can defy the odds.
     
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  5. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Is quite possible, I don't set up my tent here so don't read much <ok>

    It looks a close gap to the play offs now, but you are right, it is not easy making up a shortfall, often even harder to extend a cushion once that is achieved.
    Looks like another exciting league this season with so many inconsistent teams playing for the places.
     
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  6. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    If you ask me the acquisition of Stephen Hunt can be the difference between drawing and winning a match.

    Even if we scrape in there by Christmas we would be likely to drop back soon thereafter as the results balance out a little. But over the course of the season in the kind of form we're in now it's not insurmountable, just a shame we left it so long to find our feet.
     
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  7. Hoppersblue10

    Hoppersblue10 Well-Known Member

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    It was a cut & paste job from a previous thread, not done as well as I should if I am honest.

    For me Stephen Hunt until the end of the season is a must, also another forward & a RB, if we do that then we have a real good chance at the POs....!
     
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  8. Mike_Holmes1990

    Mike_Holmes1990 Well-Known Member

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    Team : Position Gained : Points Gained: Points in relation to Town
    Leicester : + 1 : + 6 : - 3
    QPR: + 1 : + 6 : - 3
    Burnley: -2 : + 3 : - 6
    Derby: + 7: + 12 : + 3
    Reading: + 0: + 8 : - 1
    Blackpool: - 2: + 4 : - 4
    Leeds: +1: + 9 : 0
    Forest: -2 : + 6 : - 3
    Ipswich: + 4 : + 9 : N/A
    Huddersfield: + 4: + 9 : 0

    I think that shows that although position 6 is only 1 point closer, we have been closing in on the play-off pack in general a lot more than that solitary point tells us.

    Having said that I think realistically only positions 5 and 6 are up for grabs. but we are definitely in the mix for the first time in 5 years.
     
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  9. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of season left to keep moving upwards............play offs are well within our grasps as i've always said....
     
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  10. raging eyejuice

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    We can do this........
     
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    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    ..................................'We Can Hatch'
     
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  12. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    We'll have a good idea of whether in with a shout by the end of the January. We have Huddersfield, Forest, QPR, Reading and Leeds to play between now and then. QPR are pretty much home and dry in terms of top six but the others are six pointers for us.
     
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  13. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    Good to see the team is managing to get people to reconsider their opinions of how this season could turn out......................


    ......i think the only day we want to be in the play-offs is the day after the last day of the season...........................unless we drop down from the Auto's.....
     
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  14. itfcptc

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    As I've said I think we'll be floating around midtable most of the season and possible with the odd bit of luck toward the end of the season we might sneak in there, I think over the course of a season we'll be more consistent than most teams. As we've seen alot of teams seem to go on really good runs followed by really bad ones, so who knows what can happen. I don't even think come January we will have a real picture of who will finish in those positions, the makeup of this league can change so quickly!!!
     
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