1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Hull City Tigers Limited - accounts to 31/07/13

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by petersaxton, Dec 5, 2013.

  1. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    24,881
    Likes Received:
    14,258
    Review of the business

    2012
    £ £

    Turnover 11,075,152 11,042,457
    Gross loss 26,102,168 17,353,721
    Loss before tax (after parachute payments) 25,628,171 8,771,007
    Staff costs 25,894,221 19,005,220
    Net debt 72,169,455 48,752,420
    Average league home attendance 17,368 18,790

    An amount of £24m was advanced by Allamhouse Limited in the year,
    which brings the total amounts advanced to £72m.
     
    #1
  2. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    24,881
    Likes Received:
    14,258
    Profit & loss account

    2012
    £ £

    Turnover 11,075,152 11,042,457

    Cost of sales (34,879,460) (24,761,838)
    Amotisation of player registrations (2,297,860) (3,634,340)

    Gross loss (26,102,168) (17,353,721)

    Administrative expenses (3,035,050) (2,961,715)

    Operating loss (29,137,218) (20,315,436)

    Exceptional items
    Profit on the disposal of player registrations 465,300 606,740
    Parachute payments 5,887,363 13,015,766

    Interest payable (2,843,616) (2,078,077)

    Loss before tax (25,628,171) (8,771,007)
     
    #2
  3. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    24,881
    Likes Received:
    14,258
    Sorry about the formatting
    it looked fine in the editing box!
     
    #3
  4. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    24,881
    Likes Received:
    14,258
    Balance sheet

    2012
    £ £

    Intangible assets (mainly players)
    NBV b/f 3,212,076
    Additions 13,442,780
    Amortisation (2,297,860)
    NBV c/f 14,356,996 3,212,076

    Tangible fixed assets
    (vehicles, fixtures & fittings, tootls & equipment)
    NBV b/f 562,939
    Additions 137,513
    Depreciation (207,122)
    Disposals (45,693)
    NBV c/f 447,637 562,939

    Stocks 153,126 342,301

    Debtors
    Trade debtors 3,110,221 1,137,937
    Group debts 4,702,679 4,271,257
    Other debtors 1,083,386 61,745
    Prepayments & accrued income 747,916 803,384
    9,644,202 6,274,323

    Cash at bank and in hand 735,052 79,250

    Creditors (all negatives)
    Trade creditors 14,222,880 3,012,234
    PAYE & NIC & VAT 1,499,229 1,607,562
    Other creditors 158,018 3,098
    Accruals & deferred income (including season tickets) 9,613,933 4,052,623
    25,494,060 8,675,517

    Director's loan - Dr A Allam (825,000) (825,000)
    Owed to Allamhouse Limited (72,079,507) (48,006,670)
    (72,904,507) (48,831,670)

    Provisions for liabilities (HMRC enquiry) (476,553) (873,638)

    Net liabilities (73,538,107) (47,909,936)

    Share capital 1,316,001 1,316,001
    Profit & loss account (74,854,108) (49,225,937)
    (73,538,107) (47,909,936)

    Contingent liabilities in respect of payments to players,
    depending on appearances and results 2,728,050
     
    #4
  5. ImperialTiger

    ImperialTiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    7,700
    Likes Received:
    2,524
    Do they not have "Cash and cash equivalents" any more (IAS may have changed since my accy days)?

    Doesn't appear to be under either debtors or creditors.
     
    #5
  6. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    112,111
    Likes Received:
    77,479
  7. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    112,111
    Likes Received:
    77,479
    HULL City’s latest accounts show that the cost of winning promotion to the Premier League was more than £25m.

    According to the documents made available by Companies House yesterday, owner Assem Allam again pumped in £24m to fund Steve Bruce’s bid for the top flight, taking his overall investment in Hull City to the £72m mark.

    Before tax, the club lost £25,628,171 for the accounts which date to July 31, 2013 as they made it back to the Premier League for only the second time in their history – an increase of a whopping £16,857,170 on the £8,771,007 made for the previous 12-month period.

    City’s turnover for the whole of last season was £11,075,152 which included a final parachute payment of £5,887,363 from when they were last in the top flight.

    City accounts also show they have allocated £476,553 to meet any liabilities which may arise from an ongoing enquiry from Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs with regards to tax.

    http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull...tory-20266062-detail/story.html#ixzz2mb4X1BSa
     
    #7
  8. TheCasual

    TheCasual Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2011
    Messages:
    4,260
    Likes Received:
    2,026
    Has Allam bitten off more then he can chew?

    I'm no accountant, but them accounts don't look great reading to me.
     
    #8
  9. Davies Headband

    Davies Headband Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    2,474
    Likes Received:
    161
    Am I reading that right, that we've made a loss of 25 million on a turnover of 11 million?

    Jesus wept, if we go down we're in the **** again aren't we?
     
    #9
  10. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    24,881
    Likes Received:
    14,258
    Missed it out!

    I've edited it now!
     
    #10

  11. RowZ

    RowZ Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2013
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    45
    Hmmm are you sure £11m turnover includes the £5m parachute payments, our turnover the year before was £11m without the parachute payments. Is the HDM reading this wrong?
     
    #11
  12. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    24,881
    Likes Received:
    14,258
    I didn't realise we'd spent £13m on player purchases in that year?
    Did the parachute payments reduce to £6m?
    Of course the current year will be totally different.
     
    #12
  13. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    24,881
    Likes Received:
    14,258
    HDM have got it wrong. If you look at the profit & loss account above the parachute payments are shown separately as exceptional items.
     
    #13
  14. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    38,919
    Likes Received:
    20,851
    Aren't there a lot of extras under those figures?

    Ie promotion bonuses, first month of increased wage, maybe some transfer fees like Boyds etc. possibly even the cost of upgrades to the stadium like the new camera positions, goal line tech, new telly box?
     
    #14
  15. Davies Headband

    Davies Headband Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    2,474
    Likes Received:
    161
    If we've had parachute payments of ~£6 million, and by my maths season pass income of ~£3 million, that means from EVERY other source of income for the club - tv rights, sponsorship, walk up tickets, player sales, corporate sales, we've only turned over £2 million.

    Maybe looking to exploit those areas would be a start in increasing our revenue? I noticed at the weekend the advertising board by the North East turnstiles still has a poster for last seasons shirt sales. FFS, even if you can't sell it to an outside company (unlikely) then put this years gear in it or advertise the Tigers Trust or something.
     
    #15
  16. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    112,111
    Likes Received:
    77,479
    In a word, yes.

    That's why we'll get our striker in January, we can't afford not to.
     
    #16
  17. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    112,111
    Likes Received:
    77,479
    Those items are included in the figures, though it doesn't include the Huddlestone fee.
     
    #17
  18. RowZ

    RowZ Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2013
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    45
    IF we go down we have players who we can sell e.g. Hudds, Brady, Chester. More saleable assets than last time we got relegated.
     
    #18
  19. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,253
    Likes Received:
    2,687
    The accounts show that in our promotion season our income (excluding parachute payments and the profit from player sales) increased by only £35,000. In the same period the value of our stocks of goods for resale (which I think is the stock in the shops) fell by nearly £200,000. Unless we dumped it all (in which case there should be a note in the accounts) our income last season was less than the year before.
     
    #19
  20. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    24,881
    Likes Received:
    14,258
    There's only £100k additions for fixtures, fittings, tools and equipment.
     
    #20

Share This Page