Of course one is right and one is left. One was fascist supported the Nazis while the might lean to the left, massive difference. The only way you can say they are very left wing is if you are very right wing.
The last figures I saw showed Scotland provides 9.8% of taxation and only receives 9.7% of spending, so I wouldn't say there's an unfair amount pumped into the country. The fact that the UK as a whole spends far more than it receives is a different matter and is where the rubbish about Scotland being subsidised comes from. Obviously more is spent here than is raised here, but on that basis you could take any of the 4 parts of the UK and say they were being subsidised by the rest. Don't forget the free university education for English students choosing to study in Scotland. At present they have to pay because within the UK qualification is based on residency (which means I get it free as I lived here long enough before I started my course, but a Scot who moved to England a few years ago would have to pay), but once it involves a seperate member of the EU they have to be treated as locals. Scottish independence would make the rest of the UK a seperate member and would mean they all qualified for the free tuition. NB: Not sure why someone else suggested it would result in court cases for existing students. Independence would be from a certain point onwards, not retrospective. ------------------------- It's all moot anyway, it'll not happen. When you're up here seeing the debate the Yes campaign aren't actually saying anything that will happen. The no campaign are giving loads of consequences that could come up, and when you ask the Yes campaign about them they say not to worry as everything will be the same. It means anyone who's not sure is just going to vote no, as what's the point of voting for it and having to go through all the restructuring of things if everything is going to be the same at the end of it?
Well you won't have the middle one will you? The blue and the white diagonal cross comes from the Scottish flag so why would that be retained in a new one? What'll be more amusing is if Scotland leaves, when the UK updates its flag won't that mean any Commonwealth nation with the Union Flag in the top corner of their own has to change their flag as well? eg Australia
I don't think the flag would change tbh. When the ROI left the Union, the St Patrick cross was retained. Mind you, you could say that that represents Northern Ireland.
The likes of Australia, New Zealand & Canada might follow Scotland's lead and become independent too ie. leave the Commonwealth.
Good thought on the other flags, in the article they said it could be retained as a symbol of the past. I have a feeling they just got a bunch of art students to come up with designs as 3 of them involve pink and they are all terrible.
Carrying on from Question Time being one-sided, how one-sided was this!! [video=youtube;xm5EBDa42ck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm5EBDa42ck[/video]
Funnily enough that's what I was told. Way back when I was in cubs we were on some trip somewhere and they gave us a folding card model of the Union Flag explaining where the bits came from. Obviously it starts with the Saltire as it's base to represent Scotland, then over that you lay the diagonal cross to represent Northern Ireland, and then the St George for England. I suppose they could keep the Saltire to represent Berwick. They already are independent in the way Scotland would be, although now you mention it, it hasn't actually been established whether Scotland would use a plain Saltire as their flag. We could end up with Scotland having to wait for the new Union flag before they can make their own if they want to include it the same way those other countries did.
