Lets say we need an extra £15 to £20 million a year in commercial revenue to make us a mid-table team. This would allow us to strengthen the squad and develop an academy. My suggestion would be to improve the commercial revenue coming into the club from the local area and sit down with the council about expanding the stadium and getting additional revenue from an hotel, etc. Assem Allam thinks we'll get this money by changing our name. If you were going to buy shares in Hull City Tigers Limited which business model would you back?
We haven't grabbed any pitchforks. We've produced three leaflets, one badge, one scarf and sang City Till I Die at 19:04. We have a website, a twitter account, a Facebook page and supported an independently produced petition. We've also spoken to the press. We've allowed City supporters to oppose the name in a dignified manner, that has tried to support both the club and Assem Allam. I understand why many people think we are anti-Allam but they don't point to anything the campaign has produced. Finally CTWD was created firstly in the hope that we could come to an agreement with Assem Allam (which we tried to do and failed) and secondly to persuade the FA that a significant number of fans oppose any name change.
But does that mean the FA would pass the name-change proposal if you hadn't made it clear fans were opposed? Does the FA's decision hinge on the amount of support CTWD get? You may not have done anything anti-allam but you have attracted the anti-allam crowd. Inevitable most likely but still something you should have anticipated.
Because I know everybody on the CTWD group and none of them are, or were, hooligans. I've obviously no idea who all the supporters of the campaign are, but I know those running it are not hooligans, which was the accusation.
These figures are a pipe dream. What makes everybody so sure that a hotel, sports village, etc built around the KC will bring in this extra revenue ? Unless Hull becomes a top tourist destination (Obviously 2017 will be an important year) then the extra revenue will have to come from businesses and residents of Hull and East Yorkshire. The money just isn't there...
I said past hooligans for one and yes I'm asking is there any bar for joining CTWD? If when you produce a list of members and some have a hooligan past/present then your in the **** really.
Sorry if it's not practical to do a background check on everyone who wants to join, but I think we'll probably be all right... please log in to view this image
The vote on the name change is at the discretion of the FA. The rule is clear, they can do what they like. No opposition they could rubber stamp it, some opposition they may have to think about it, lots of bad press about the owner and a possible thumbs down. In all my posts on this topic I have always said the vote wasn't a forgone conclusion and that there was no magical formula one way or another. I expected Assem Allam to have done some groundwork to make sure of a yes vote. Seems he actually believes its his business and he can do what he wants. OLM has answered the question about hooligans.
Wow youve got your patronising head on today havent you. I always thought you'd have better teeth than that.
Do you dispute my figures that much extra on top of the TV money etc is what we realistically need to become a mid-table team? I'm not saying the money is there. But do you think that amount of money will come pouring in from a name change?
How would you go about separating the 'hooligans' from everybody else? Have a tick box on the sign up sheet? Who the hell is going to tick that? If they every publicly printed a list of everybody involved in CTWD and there happen to be a couple of people (I imagine if there were it'd be less than 0.1%), the group could be seen to distance themselves from these people. I haven't heard anybody agree (rightly so) with AA's comments, whether they're against the name change or not. Given all that's happened in football over the years, casually saying 'fans can die when they want to' isn't very clever, especially when you consider what happened with the Port Said disasters in HIS home country (something he came out as saying was tragic and that our club would fully support them). We never did have that friendly against Al-Ahly and we haven't really made anything of the connections between the two clubs. People seem to be confusing a protest group with a rioting mob. CTWD aren't a bunch of ****s who'll kick you in for not agreeing with them or smash in AA's car if he changes the name. It's about making a stand for the right reasons.
