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Kedwell McDonald Akinfenwa

Discussion in 'Gillingham' started by alwaysright, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. alwaysright

    alwaysright @ Very Angry Camel

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    Menage et trois or Bermuda triangle ?

    What pairing do we use ?

    We all know that Kedwell will run himself into the ground for the team - better than Bayo ( a totally different style of player ) - but he never seems to have the support that he needs. Is this because of the tactics of the manager - content on playing one up front ( unless we're defending corners ). That's all very well as long as we're not losing.
    It seems that we only change to 2 or more forwards when chasing the game.

    Yesterday Kedwell was replaced by Akinfenwa - and immediately linked up with McDonald to create a goal for Cody - just like of old. They showed a greater understanding than other pairings we've had this season. Cody should have had a 2nd goal on the stroke of full time. In the short time they were together it did look as if a Akinfenwa / McDonald might just stave off relegation this season. As far as I am concerned - we have not seen enough of the pairing in the games this season - surely it deserves a bit of a run.
     
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  2. grumpygit

    grumpygit les misérable

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    Cody and Kedwell have both scored 5 goals from open play, Cody has scored his in about half the pitch time of Kedwell, Bayo has scored 2 goals in a very brief amount of pitch time.
     
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  3. alwaysright

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    grumpygit ( still friends ? )
    The point I was trying to make is that we need goals -
    Whilst I admire the work ethic of Kedwell - for the amount of time he has been partnered -up, there hasn't been any passage of play that has suggested that we looked like scoring - in the very brief time that Bayo & Cody have been together, they have shown some signs of linking up to worry opposing defenders -

    Having said that ^^^^ I do feel sorry for Kedwell - he seems to get a raw deal inasmuch that he is the one most likely to be asked to be a lone striker.
     
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  4. grumpygit

    grumpygit les misérable

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    alwayright(friends for life <smooch>)

    I agree with you about Kedwell, he is definitely a grafter but spends too much time in midfield or on the wing instead of in the box, if you can bring yourself to watch the Rotherham highlights again just watch how many and how fast their players arrive in the box.
     
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  5. alwaysright

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    grumpygit ( I don't kiss blokes - unless they're my sons)

    I am still tormented by the sight of the Rotherham attack bearing down on our goal faster than anything that could be done by Mr.Bolt - goodness knows what Nelson must have been thinking when they had 4 v 2 defenders in a breakaway following one of our rare corners - luckily the forward chose not to use his left foot - otherwise it would have been a more certain goal than anything Barrett could miss.
     
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  6. vinney

    vinney Well-Known Member

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    Exactly right grumps. You've summed keds up perfectly. Because he spends so much time in deep positions, we are virtually playing without a centre forward. Hes got some goals from open play, but I'm sure he would get more if he stayed up front and let the midfield deal with the midfield. I remember Martin Allen saying that Danny had made more headers out of our box than anyone else.Quite honestly, that is not what is needed. He needs to be in the side, but we need at least one or two strikers up front. Danny said when Taylor took over that he was told to keep in the box. He said the same last year when M A took over. It doesn't seem to happen though, Wimbledon fans said whenhe joined us that he gets all over the pitch, but I'm not sure that's what we need in L1.
     
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  7. gioblues

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    kedwell should always be in the team. He should be the number 10 roll just behind the main striker like Rooney . If Cody is fit he should b the main striker. as i said on many times before the midfield are to slow in support.Only Weston when he feels like it.
     
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  8. The Gills PegLeg

    The Gills PegLeg Rock 'n' Roll Football

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    For god sake people give it a rest. 40 goals in 110 games and you still aren't happy. Lool at the amount of goals Rooney scores and he covers more of the pitch than any other Manchester United or England player but obviously he shouldn't be a striker either by your reckoning.
     
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  9. brb

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    So how many goals has Gerrard scored over his career and is he solely a striker?
     
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  10. alwaysright

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    Not sure if that is relevant - I started the thread NOT because I have anything against any of the 3 that I named in the title - but because of the combination and tactics that we have employed in the shuffling of those players.
    My point is that the pairing of Bayo & Cody has imho shown signs that they could resurrect their old form -but the manager(s) have scarcely used them together.
    brb - as you have aforementioned - it's broken - so let's fix it - therefore we need to explore Bayo & Cody a bit more - it might work - when little else has.
     
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  11. brb

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    my comment was towards The Gills PegLeg comment at #8
     
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  12. The Gills PegLeg

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    Brb he didn't score 40 goals in 110 games thats for sure. Gerrard's goalscoring abilities have waned since he's got older but Kedwell now in his 30s is still doing it. He's only 2 goals behind Jackson and has been here the same time Jacko was. I'm just saying people need to realise there is more than one type of striker and people don't seem to give him enough credit.

    10 goals before the end of November and still not a striker? Even Lampard who has scored over 200 goals for Chelsea can't match that.
     
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  13. grumpygit

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    40 goals! but how many penalties?

    yes he's good at penalties but then if Cody took the 5 Kedwell has scored this year and missed 2 he would still have 8 goals to Kedwells 5.

    I'm just making a point with that I am not saying we shouldn't play Kedwell, it's a forum for discussion and we are discussing.
     
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    alwaysright, I'm devastated! you never told me you were a man. :emoticon-0106-cryin
     
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  15. alwaysright

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    Just because I say that I never kiss blokes unless they're my sons doesn't necessarily mean that I'm a man - my wife doesn't kiss me(n) - but that doesn't mean she isn't a woman !


    ,,,,, I think I might need to consult my solicitor before I say anything else.
     
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  16. Gills-man-Ant-Dog

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    Most of you know i'm not a massive Kedwell fan, however i'm more than happy to have been proved somewhat wrong this season as he's been pretty exceptional for us.

    However, it is becoming somewhat prediticatable and I don't expect it to last. We have 3 decent strikers for this level, so why do we only ever really play Kedwell? Do we really think that the opposition don't scout us and report back saying 'Kedwell will definitely start, and here's how you stop him' and the way to stop him is this - double up on him and he'll only lay the ball off 50% of the time therefore he'll come deeper to collect the ball meaning our full backs can cover, oh, and don't give away a penalty.

    We are incredibly predictable, as has been said in this and other threads, the pace of Rotherham going forward was fantastic on Saturday, we will regularly have just Kedwell on the edge of the box and Weston runnng into a blind alley when we go forward, before hanging a cross that only Oliver Bierhoff (the player with the best heading ability ever IMHO) could score.

    I digress, however my main point is why not become a little less predictable, players don't gear themselves up to play against Bayo, as they know he won't play - but why don't we use the 3 strikers we have in various combinations to become unpredictable to defences, it makes the opposition uneasy from the start if they see someone they weren't expecting and i know a lot of you don't agree but Bayo, particularly away from home, is a massive asset. I take you back to Swindon away, the game before he was seemingly dropped forever, he was absolutely brilliant and took both of their centre halves out for the entire first half, i gurantee we would get more away points with him starting a few more games.
     
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  17. vinney

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    100% agree with you, for reasons I've stated in the earlier part of the thread, Gills-man-Ant-Dog. PT has got to find a starting berth for Keds though, because he doesn't deserve to be dropped, but to be included with Bayo and Cody.
     
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  18. The Gills PegLeg

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    Grumpy you can't really have a go at Keds about scoring every penalty he's taken this season. It's not his fault that the oppositions defenders are stupid enough to give them away and someone still needs to put them away. He's got 10 goals in 22 games this season, a ratio of nearly a goal every 2 games. Cody has scored 5 in 21 games, ok the amount of minutes he's had on the pitch is less but nowhere near as clinical as he used to be. As to Bayo don't forget he pretty much started the first 8 consecutive games alongside Kedwell and struggled to only just pop up with 2.

    If you were to play Keds in midfield the team wouldn't score as many as we do. Why? because are strikers aren't as clinical as they should be, otherwise they would have been playing there by now wouldn't they?
     
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  19. grumpygit

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    PegLeg,
    I stated quite clearly that I didn't want Kedwell dropped, I simply stated that if other players had taken the penalties he would only be on 5 goals, remember also he isn't the one earning the penalties (you have to be in the area to do that).
    As for playing him in midfield he seems to do that anyway and that is the problem, we need someone to play up front and relieve the pressure from our defence. Having a decent midfield would help the whole team, on Saturday the Northampton left back spent most of the game in our half of the pitch taking pot shots at goal, this was largely due to him having no fear of us mounting an attack and if we did there was no one in a forward position to defend against.
     
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  20. vinney

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    That about earning penalties is an interesting point. Does anyone know who has actually earned the penalties? Cody hasn't had much game time ,but I'm sure he's earned a couple.
     
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