Agree Cottager,i would like to open tomorrows papers and see Jol has gone. I feel that Ali Mac as chief executive either refuses to act, as a prime instigator for his appointment, egg on face could be the delay in taking action Dug up something interesting on an old Spurs page from 2007 Daniel Levy new chairman in 2007 " Having given Mj over 42 million to be spent in the transfer market over the last 3 yrs, a considerable amountfor any club,we feel the club has not progressed to the extent we envisaged,we will therefore be terminating his contract imediatly. Achievements under Jol 5th place and Europa cup quarter finalists,as Levy intimated not good value for 42m So to the Jol fan club if there still is any,and who say "ah but he was not given transfer monies",these stats must show he could not pick a winner in a one horse race
It's not entirely Jol's fault. More of the fault, I think, sets on the doorstep of MAF for his unwillingness to invest more in the club, but Jol must go and go soon if the next manager is to have sufficient time to bin the bad players and find some new ones that can get us out of this mess.
I still rate Jol, Roscafre, but that isn't the same as saying I think he should stay! He's a good manager who was harshly treated by Spurs - they were nowhere near finishing 5th before he took over there, so it's not fair to say he underachieved with them. After two very good years, he was hastily sacked after a poor start to a season and most Spurs fans still speak very warmly of him. That said, he seems to have lost the plot with us, and working relationships seem to have broken down on a number of fronts, not least between him and the fans. If he's going to go, we need a good replacement though. I was a fan of giving the job to Kit Symons, but the appointment of Meulensteen makes it more complicated. Rene has no great track record as an actual manager, and I wouldn't want us to risk putting him in sole charge. That said, his presence at the club could put a lot of potential managers off if they think there could be some kind of a power struggle. Assuming that we can't tempt Sir Alex out of retirement, that says to me that the ideal appointment is someone a few of us mentioned a couple of weeks ago: Ole Gunner Solskjaer. Presumably the two of them know each other from their time together on the coaching staff at Old Trafford. They could be the dream ticket. Maybe.
But Levy has said that about almost every manager they've had since, not to mention they made £100m from one of Jols purchases. For me Jol was the person who brought the best out in Dembele and Dempsey, and had he been able to build round them then things would be different. For most of his other clubs Jol has had money to spend. For those clubs he never had them in relegation areas, so like Tigana it is new to him to have a club in a relegation fight and I don't think he can handle it and again like Tigana he keeps saying he will not give up on his philosophy on the way he wants to play, but he doesn't seem to realise that you can not have all these luxury players who don't put in the effort as a team. That will be his downfall, putting his faith into players who are not putting in the effort.
Got me purring at the thought of solskjaer and meulensteen working their magic on the team there captain. That said, I am still very unsure of just how they would get the best out of the squad, it is show room of used cars and ones that look good on paper but under perform when they leave. Whoever inherits them has their work cut out. A lot would depend on whether khan is willing to invest in some shiny new ones and get rid of the rust buckets.
I don't remember us being absolutely abysmal under Tigana, quite the opposite in fact, with far less talented players.
Don't get me wrong for me Tigana was our best manager for years, but what I remember is that he stuck to his principles of possession football to the point that we never had shots at goal, he had dropped senior players like Collins and Clark, and we were slowly getting near relegation zone before Coleman took over with 5 games to go, I remember going up to Leeds and losing being 16th with 3 games to go, luckily Coleman w2 d1.
Parker came out defending Jol or trying to put some pressure to the players. I believe we have some fighters in there, one if them Parker, just need to make them click. Don't think will get anything on Wed. What worries me is the defence. We concede goals relatively easy. And the goal difference is getting worse. Riether is back. Time to give Riise another go. Which means different back four again.
I loved Coleman, but I believe Tigana would have kept us up no problem. He moulded some of the greatest players we've ever had (Saha, Steed, Boa) whereas Jol was given talent and has seemingly wasted it. Apparently there's a rumour afoot that Tigana may be coming back.
Would love to see someone like hoddle director of football,with M incharge of coaching, love to see Danny added to the staff. Whatever happens i am sure that by now the board has some plan in mind.
That first year in the Premiership with Tigana was beyond belief. The second was less so. Best to keep the good memories rather than hope you can turn the clock back. Nonetheless, as I said in the 'Team v West Ham' thread the consistency which Roy brought, was also a Tigana stength. And that's what we now urgently need.
its to late now, we are already relegated, not just because of jol, we have not bought any quality players for years, we done well under roy due to hard work, we need 2 new centre defenders, one left back, attacking midfielder, and 2 strikers, we wont get 30 points this season, I do not know anyone who can see any positives going forward, Bournemouth here we come I am afraid
That's nonsense. We're certainly in trouble now, but there are other poor teams in this league. If we make the changes we need to make and (heaven forbid) actually spend some money, there are still 25 games left.
how many games do you go to a season? if we cant get shots on target or defend or battle, we are the worse team I have seen, sadly cant see any other outcome, the other crap teams beat us, we have not invested any money, and are paying for it now, I have missed 3 games this season home and away
I generally go to about 22. I admit, I'm not good at attending away games. Anyway, is our situation difficult? Of course it is. Am I sick that we have not invested any money? Of course I am. Is it depressing me to see us "play" this way? Of course it is. However, I'm not writing any season off in December. There is talent in this squad for a manager with the desire to push them. We are Fulham and I will continue to believe until the day when it is impossible.
I have missed 2 home game in the last 3 seasons,and i agree with a previous comment this is about the worst team since entering the premiership we have at least 3 players who dont give a s..t,and another 3 who are not even championship standard let alone the premier, and as for that 10milion £ Costa Rican ladyboy words fail me. But with a new coaching, management staff with commitment, we can do a Gloria Gaynor. and next season the cup or pemiership winners
why I say we are doomed, is because our squad is not that good, hull city have a better midfield than us, we have been so poor that we need to improve not a little but a lot, rene I believe has been picking the team last 2 games, and we have not got any better, Darren bent is past it, berbatov could not give a toss, our defence is ageing and past it, where are our good players, if we do go down(we have to believe we can do it) how many prem teams will want our players? not many, January window for us will be massive, 2 years agp sidwell would not even get on the pitch, we need a miracle, we can do, just cant see it happening
