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Why Liverpool will replace Arsenal in the Top 4

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  1. King_Kenny

    King_Kenny Member

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    Not a bad article. Even though it's not really serious, the points that are brought up do make a lot of sense and I must agree that if any team is going to drop out of the top 4 this season I'd have to say that it would be Arsenal.

    I'm by no means saying that Liverpool are the team that are going to take their place (We've had a few false dawns in past couple of season) but if Fabregas and Nasri do leave then they could have a problem on their hands with regards replacing them, especially if Nasri leaves for pittance.
     
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  2. Depay Sound

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    Arsenal are tipped to finish outside of the top 4 most seasons though, but at the moment their squad doesn't looks good (god knows what Wenger was on when he said this was his best squad ever!). If Arsenal don't strengthen then I could see Liverpool displacing them, and knowing Wenger he will refuse to strengthen his squad.

    I think Liverpool will finish around 4th/5th next season. Tottenham could finish above them but they lack consistency.
     
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  3. Chris.

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    It's a good article. I can see Arsenal buying some big players though. Wenger can't be that stupid, can he?

    (Let's hope so because we could nick 4th place off them!)
     
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  4. Depay Sound

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    He's so bloody stubborn though. He's bound to keep buying inexperienced youngsters and players on the cheap which can only take them so far. They really need to strengthen their squad as it's the poorest Arsenal squad I've seen in years. They were rotten from the Carling Cup final onwards.
     
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  5. ShanklyFC8910

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    i saw this this morning. good read.
    btw, look at my thread on my predictions on next season (arsenal finishing 5th) and post ur own.
     
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  6. Chris.

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    Yeah, completely agree. He has been buying the youth for a long time and it is not working. A club's history is based on trophies and not buying cheap players and making them good players. I know this is said every year, but next season is massive for Arsenal.
     
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  7. Depay Sound

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    I admire his ability to spot young talent and develop them but you need a few experienced players too. That's where Sir Alex is better than Wenger.

    Surely Arsenal could stretch the purse strings a bit further without it being damaging to their finances.
     
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    The major problem for Arsenal is Wenger...He's so blnkered and stubborn, he won't change..This constant desire to spend cheap and develop young, unknowns is fine to a point..But look at the cold hard FACTS..Arsenal are softer than a 1 year old's poo. Every man and his dog, knows you get in Arsenal's faces they fold. When Wenger arrived, they had Adams,Keown, Dixon and more. Tough no nonsense players, now who have they got? When they retired/left Arsenal started going backwards..coincidence?

    Yes, they play great football. But without some steel behind it, its about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.
     
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  9. Chris.

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    That's a good point. Arsenal are going too far one way (Buying unproven youth) If he could mix it up a bit and bring in some proven winners, it could be massive for Arsenal. Also, having some proven winners in the dressing room could improve the mental strength of the players.
     
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  10. KingPepeReina.

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    Personally I don't think it will take Fabregas or Nasri..or both to leave.If Wenger doesn't take his finger out and sign players that will strengthen areas of weakness and other clubs do,then they could fall out of the top four.Its dog eat dog,survival of the fittest,if you don't progress,you get left behind thats the way it is.
     
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    If we make good signings we will aim for the title, if not we will struggle for the top 4. I for one am looking forward to next season a lot because there will be so many quality teams fighting for both the title and the champions league places. I
     
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    We have £51 Million to spend and that is without the possible money from the sale of Cesc Fabregas. Its too much guess work to predict who will finish where this early. Lets wait until the end of the transfer window. If Cesc goes, then the project is over as he is the man the project was built for and around. There could be some huge spending. Liam Brady who works at Arsenal has spend we will spend.
     
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  13. KingPepeReina.

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    RVF.
    If Wenger makes the right signings ie a keeper,a holding midfielder,a a no bullshit centre back,not only will Arsenal compete for the title,they will win it.
    If he doesn't and instead signs more ''soft players'',then they may drop out of the top four.
     
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    They all sound like good reasons. But then again they all sounded like good reasons when they were said in 05/06 (Vieira and Pires leaving), 06/07 (Henry and Cole and the lasagne) and 2009 (Adebayor and Toure). Besides which, I think Arsenal may actually benefit from losing Nasri, and possibly even Fabregas. Like when they lost Henry, that might force the other players to actually man up and fight for victories, rather than waiting for one of those two to pull something out of the hat and save them again. Particularly if Wenger finally replaces them with players who can inspire those around them, rather than just carry them.

    Also, it's not like they would completely destroy their midfield if those two left. They would still have Wilshere and Ramsey who have proven themselves to be capable replacements and could even give more balance to the team.
     
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  15. BringBackfootie

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    Love the wildly inaccurate description of Arsenal's current situation, they offered much this season and their failing has been the lack of two players of steel, if they had added that last summer they may have walked the prem and maybe have won the CL. They have played better football than United Arsenal City Chelsea and Liverpool Spurs, far better football going forward but alas they do not work as hard in the other direction.

    Arsenal appear to give no thought to what happpens if they don't score from this attack.:)

    liverpool have plenty of the latter and are looking to improve on the former still further but Liverpool are not as good going forward as Arsenal.

    Liverpool will not finish ahead of Arsenal this season unless Arsenal lose key players. We have much work to do and our young players a lot to learn, to expect to finish 3rd is a high expectation if the other top teams perform this season coming.

    Mark my words, Citeh will be in either 4th or 5th this season

    Clearly after Chelsea collapsed arsenal were the best team in the league until it fell apart after Birmingham, mental fragility I think, and it has gone stale for me it really has and the only way Wenger can continue is to bring in 2 or 3 big signings, if for nothing else to convince the quality they already have to stay, that there is a plan for success and not just profit for share holders.

    Arsenal fans should think their manager and club directors a joke if they were to let Nasri go to the team they were battling for the title towards the end of the season, unless tey had a much better replacement, for Nasri to go to United would be an admission of no ambition other than to make arsenal a profitable business
     
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  16. KingPepeReina.

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    I'm convinced Arsenal need a at least 3 generals, at least 3 uncompromising players,3 nasty bastards.All the top clubs have them.Arsenal for their lovely football...are too nice.In 1998,they had them,In 2002 and 2004 they had them.Players with ice running through their veins.If Wenger doesn't solve this,they could drop out of the top four.
     
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  17. BringBackfootie

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    If Arsenal had Lucas last season, Lucas alone they'd have been 12 points or more better off
     
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    I think our keeper is good enough and Djourou and Vermalen are too but I agree with you about needing a new defensive midfielder who is a real leader. I also want us to sign a top class striker so that we can still compete when RvP has his inevitable long term injury. Oh and if Nasri and Fabregas do leave then we need quality replacements for them as well.
     
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  19. robin_van_ fiberglass

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    I think you are overrating Lucas a bit there. I admire his hard work but I think Wilshire gives us the same thing.
     
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  20. BringBackfootie

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    I agree with the favourable aspects of Arsenal's evaluation. They fell short because of possibly 1 single player of a type, that just might have been enough, I honestly think thats the small margin ye failed by this season, Nasri and Fab leaving os one thing but going to United ect, and being ok with that is well..Remember Woy's Torres United comments, and they were just comments
     
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