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Allam WILL walk away

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chilton's Hundreds, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    Thanks for your honest reply. I still feel there's a little bit of hypocrisy. If we are struggling financially as much as you seem to think and you can't see where the next is going to come from then I don't really understand how you cannot be hoping for a buyer to come in a rescue us again.
     
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  2. petersaxton

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    I didn't make it up. Plenty of people think the same. What businesses in the rest of the world like about the Premier League - besides it being one - if not the - best league in the world is the long tradition of the clubs. This is much more marketable than the desperate measures being seen by declining rugby league competitions, etc.
     
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  3. petersaxton

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    Yes, that will be the next step on the downward spiral.
    The funny thing is that when I used to look for a plumber or an electrician I would make a point of ignoring the AAA Plumbers/Electricians, etc.
     
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  4. petersaxton

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    He's said so many contradictory things recently I don't rely on anything he says.
     
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  5. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    As irrational his case may be, is he acting illegally?

    There is no way this can be saved. Absolutely zero way. There are only 2 ways about this. Fan-power can be shown. Make an impact on his wallet by refunding tickets, not showing up at games, not buying any merchandise or food on premises. However, it seems not many are willing to do this because of the PL (cake and eat it).

    The only other alternative is for CTWD to create such a divide between owner and fans and ultimately piss the owner so much that he will find a way to back out and most likely leave us in trouble. (Or he won't spend any money on players. There are many ways this could happen.)



    There is zero chance of him backing off, smiling and pumping his money back into the club. You do realise this right?
     
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  6. petersaxton

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    So you are saying that Allam does things because it's his club and there's no logic to it?
    I know it's not my call to make but that isn't a reason for me to not consider something logically.
     
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  7. DMD

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    You STILL haven't read it have you, or are you just ignoring it?
     
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  8. PLT

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    The first one isn't viable because there simply aren't enough passionate fans who would care enough to boycott. Even abstaining from the club shop will be difficult to get anyone to join in with in numbers. There are people who buy red Cardiff shirts for some reason. It's just a sad fact there are always people who don't care and there's a lot of them.

    Personally I'd love it if Allam left. I don't want any more of his high-interest 'gifts'. But I'm not CTWD. I suspect others would agree with me but that's not a professional stance to take. No one wants to appear - certainly at this stage - as radical anti-owner protesters. I do wonder if that's the way it'll go if he carries on being a dick though.
     
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  9. petersaxton

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    So you don't think that when the FA say that the fans have to be consulted they will stand by that?
    I would disagree. He ISN'T entitled to make such a decision. You are getting confused between an independent business and one that has to comply with the rules of the authority they are a member of.
     
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  10. Hank Scorpio

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    What do you expect will happen if he changes our name to Hull Tigers then we get relegated?
     
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  11. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    He'll hate them again.
     
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  12. Obadiah

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    He is not struggling financially. If we stay up our promotion costs will disappear. I think he pays cash for the transfers so if we buy less players we can live within our income. I think he's talking about getting the money needed to move to the next level and compete for a European place. Not finding the money to keep us ticking over.
     
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  13. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    You really think I have the time to answer all these or any respect to give you?

    Why don't you answer this question? (while I spend a few weeks going through your ridiculous vendetta. I suggest you look at yourself spending so much time researching and arguing with a specific internet stranger :D )

    Since I've gone from one extreme opinion to the other (in your black and white mind) and surely you cannot be sitting on the fence, then what is your point? Surely at some point I must have had an opinion that you shared. Does it bother you that much that I have a different one now? or is it simply that you struggle to understand how someone could change their opinion? Not quite sure what your angle is.

    All you are showing is that you're a very bitter old man with way too much time on his hands who clearly hasn't added anything to this debate/forum as you chose to focus on posters rather than content.

    It is a nice Xmas present though to know that I matter so much to you that you've gone through all this trouble. Really flatters me and a nice ego-boost!
    I thank you ever so kindly for this .
     
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  14. petersaxton

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    You dont seem to understand the difference between a playing name and a nickname. I didn't say "The Tigers" is a silly nickname. I think "Hull Tigers" is a silly playing name.

    You seem to be totally illogical. You say: "we've been known as "The Tigers" for many years now it obviously isn't silly in the view of all those supporters who have embraced it, the club colours, and badge since before you started watching." You seem to approve of the long history of our nickname but you have a totally different view when it comes to our even longer historical playing name. Maybe you can explain the contradiction?
     
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  15. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    Where have I said that a name change will guarantee safety? I've precisely explained that this point is Moot. Until it is tried, no one not even Bill Gates will know if it will work or not. This is a punt if AA truly believes it or a retaliation if he is bitter towards the HCC. It is nothing more. It is clear that it is not a well researched business plan. That doesn't mean he isn't entitled to do it.

    Therefore my point is going against him by bringing this argument up is not going to work.
     
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  16. petersaxton

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    Yes, I've been a bit busy and I only just logged on!
     
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  17. Stuart Blampey

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    So you've no answers?

    Never mind, back to cartoons, lad.
     
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  18. Hank Scorpio

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    You haven't, but he's said this will make the club progress where HCAFC wouldn't. And people have swallowed that.

    I'm just asking if the opposite happened, what will everyone think then?
     
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  19. petersaxton

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    No, but rather than consider the silly comments you make I will answer with logic.
    A newly promoted club has to stay up and hopefully not finish very near the bottom. Then in future years they will find it easier to attract good players. Then if Allam wants to sell he has a chance of making a profit or at least minimising his losses.

    I think that is a more sensible plan than relying on a change of name.
     
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  20. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    You were dismissed, did you not read it? You weren't meant to answer them. It's a bit of self respect you need.

    The answers are in the questions, if you were to answer you could use a generic one for all Qs "we're in the PL now, it doesn't matter to me"

    Why has your opinion changed? it appears the answer lies in the PL. Is there another explanation? Why do you have a problem with your change of opinion being highlighted?

    Why did you jump threads to rep me? Was it to avoid your "cancer" jibe?

    Your opinions don't bother me, we all change them from time to time. It's just usually people have better reasons than "we're in the PL now, it doesn't matter to me". Me highlighting your lack of principles shows you up as the PL whore you are, which is good.

    I'm not old, but I am a bitter man. Hate lager it's not real beer. I'm also very busy yet highly efficient.

    My opinions were laid out quite early in the debate, I have no need or desire to regurgitate them on a daily basis. I will continue to highlight two faced knobs though.

    I've been around for a long time.

    Now you're dismissed again
     
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