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Allam WILL walk away

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chilton's Hundreds, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    kinell Peter are you going through all 30 pages replying to posts. <yikes>
     
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  2. TygerTyger

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    Yes, but it's not your club is it? It's Allams. You should have bought it when you had the chance.
     
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  3. TygerTyger

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    So your advice to him is to keep putting money in until you say stop? He runs out? Hell freezes over?

    Or is there some sort of magic figure that only you know that will be right?
     
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  4. Fez

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    Well, that's it then, I'm off to Drayton Manor for a bit of that beaver stroking <laugh>
     
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  5. petersaxton

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    They do. It's just illegal to watch them in the UK.
     
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  6. DMD

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    Mr Allam's already said STOP. That's what prompted him to consider the name change.
     
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  7. Obadiah

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    He is not entitled to make the decision unless he comes out of the FA and the Premier League and starts his own football league. Otherwise he makes the application to the FA and they make the decision.
     
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  8. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    Not really though.

    There's nothing to suggest he won't be the first businessman to create a ton of money out of a company-name change. What is your evidence that nothing suggests it will make us money? Is it because it hasn't been done before?

    And actually there are many articles about successful logo and name changes of brands that are now global.
    Google used to be Backrub. I know it's not the same scenario but my point is you can't use those arguments.

    I've said this already, there's no point in going against him with business-related arguments. Because I doubt anyone on here has a clue about that level of business. and either way this may or not be business related.


    What's quite funny is the approach CTWD has taken. They're going with a negative approach and people are gearing up to "fight" AA and force him to change. This will sound naive but have we asked him nicely? Tried pulling at his heart strings. The guy is stubborn so you won't being able to force his hand. But I would try and reach the man rather than the businessman. You won't win if you go in with figures and business suggestions. You may win if you reach his emotional side (if he has one).

    I'm not saying it will work but right now I don't see any positive outcome because everything is negative and his image is of a dictator rather than a saviour.
     
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  9. DMD

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    Have you read any of the background on this at all? If you have, is there any particular reason you choose to keep ignoring it?
     
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  10. petersaxton

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    That was some theoretical exercise with stock exchange shares. It was nothing to do with businesses being successful.
     
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  11. Obadiah

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    Tried and failed.
     
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  12. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    "They are business men, they don't really "care" like we do.

    To those who don't, are you basically implying that we should all sit down with big grins on our faces because someone has done an incredible gesture and gave us £41 million pounds and we should never question their intent, their motives, their actions because after all "they saved us" .
    Isn't that how drug lords operate?
    "we saved your arse so you shut the hell up while we do whatever the **** we want?""
     
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  13. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    keep ignoring what?
     
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  14. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    So you went and pulled my quote about the Allams of over a year ago yet you are comparing him to a drug lord? <laugh><laugh>
     
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  15. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    I know. I was being facetious.
     
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  16. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    It's all your quote.
     
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  17. petersaxton

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    Experience helps. I don't think you have to know a lot about football as long as you take advice and have a logial mind.

    What I would say you shouldn't do is make changes that would be controversial and not have any clear benefit.
     
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  18. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    Amazing to think how he all conned us from the start. We were all sucked in and it was deemed blasphemous to criticise him 2 years ago. Our saviour our hero. A man of the city who was giving back to the city. He then Emotionally blackmailed us by giving us the PL and all that so he could change the name to get back at council. Is that basically everyone's opinion of AA now? It's all black and white with you lot.
     
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  19. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    Isn't that how you really see it?
     
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  20. petersaxton

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    Does that mean you think that every club outside the top 6 in the country should change to a silly name to achieve success? What if the first club in the Premier League to do it becomes a laughing stock and it has a detrimental effect on their finances? Do you just say: "It was worth a try" even though more sensible people counselled against it?
     
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