We need some kind of adversity to get the crowd fired up , stewards and banners , terrible tackles/decisions . Not scoring many goals doesn't help
If you are going to trial blaze you have to be allowed to do it. The Premier League is big business dominated by the major clubs. After the last couple of weeks what do you think their attitude is. Before you ask I don't know. Do you think Assem Allam has sat down with them to discuss it in a spirit of compromise and discussion? Maybe he thinks he's already changed the name and its got nothing to do with them. Maybe he doesn't care and will tell them its his business and not to tell him what to do. The stakes may be a little higher then being a yo-yo club. On Saturday the world say a We are Hull City banner being ripped out of the hands of a couple of people. What does that do for the image of the Premier League around the world? The vast majority of us, including Assem Allam want the same thing. A successful football club that can eventually compete in Europe. Why has he withdrawn into his bunker? Is it because talking to people and compromising isn't in his dictionary? Finally trying to change the status quo when the big clubs and the broadcasters run the Premier League requires allies. Where are Assem Allam's? Vincent Tan is the only one who has put his head a little over the parapet. I notice he hasn't raised Cardiff Dragons again. He's waiting to see what the Premier League and the FA do to us first. Perhaps the sign of a clever man, get somebody else to fight your battle first to see how the land lies. If it fails you can quietly retreat and nobody will know.
Are there any clubs with the name of their main sponsor being part of the club name? Just wondering whether, for example, Tiger beer could buy a club already called Hull Tigers to further their brand. If it was allowed could we see Manchester City being renamed Manchester Exxon? It would be open season on big brands buying a club and renaming them for their own marketing agenda.
He talks, he gets criticized. He doesn't talk, he gets criticized. He saves us from extinction, he gets us promoted, he tries to think of a way to increase our self sufficiency and give us something no one would ever EVER have dreamed of, and he get's criticized. He's had this since the very start, and I honestly think he doesn't care, and rightly so, he knows what he's doing and he knows why. Go have a look at the some of the awful images and comments from people who support your campaign Obi, then tell in the same situation, how would you react? You're also overstating the world wide reaction to the CI banner. You say we want the same thing as him, but he's the only one actually trying to do anything. Your options seems to be do nothing, do it quietly and don't upset the apple cart, which is exactly what the state of football in our country doesn't need at all. I hope he's right, that one day, people will say "Hey, Dr Allam at Hull started this".
I'll tell you. I'd have come up with the idea. I see what I'd need to do to implement it. I'd realise that I'd need the permission of the FA. I'd have a quiet word about how they would see it panning out. I'd realise that I'd need supporters on side. I'd do a bit of research and see who would come up with the money. I'd wine and dine some influencial supporters and supporters groups. I'd get the OSC on side. When I'd lined up all my ducks I'd open my mouth publicly. I'd expect an uproar, I'd invite them in for a cup of tea and pull out a list of sponsors and say this is what I've lined up. I'd still expect opposition but I wouldn't do anything crass like let the stewards (note I didn't say order) try to ban a Hull City banner. The point about the worldwide coverage isn't about how big it is. It is about what the Premier League think about it. It could be a storm in a tea cup in China, Canada and the United States, but it may be a hurricane in the Premier League and FA headquarters and ultimately they are the ones that count. I don't need to see the images or comments they don't support my campaign. If they did they would follow our requests for any protests to be respectful and to support the club and oppose the name change.
Remember, we have Cash Converters on our shirts. And we've just signed up to SBOBET. Say no more. I am yet to see how Hull Tigers will suddenly become a successful team & attract massive investment from all over the world, over night, as some of you, who think it's a good idea believe will happen.
If Hull Tigers are a financial success the question will always be asked whether the same success financially would have been achieved as Hull City AFC. A rebrand would normally only be considered when a current brand is failing. How many potential investors have said "no" because of our current name? I'd guess none. Give it 5 years as Hull City AFC, use the TV money wisely, invest in the squad, measure success appropriately, be competitive in the cups, maintain our PL status & the investment we desire may well become apparent. If it doesn't, then consider a rebrand, but research the proposal fully first.
That's not true and you know it. Allam's plan is to only try the radical and ignore the basic, blindingly obvious things we don't do which every other club does. He could talk to the council about the stadium but he refuses to. I'm sure they were awkward previously but he just refuses point blank to go back and talk to them. He acknowledges we need to own the ground yet he's the one stopping us from owning it. No one else can go and buy it on his behalf. He's the owner he needs to grow up and talk to them. You can't say people want him to do nothing, there are all sorts of suggestions of ways to make the club money which have been communicated to the club through various means, and which aren't totally stupid, yet for whatever reason the club has completely ignored these things with him at the helm. He gets criticised every time he speaks because every time he speaks it's stupid, rude, offensive and ill-thought out. That's all aside from the fact that he just lies when he feels like it, holds the club's supporters in total contempt and is far too trigger-happy with his sacking finger when someone says something he doesn't like, or even if he just doesn't understand why the club needs a particular employee that his other business doesn't have and won't listen when anyone tries to explain it to him. He's cost us several key employees because of his personal spats. He acknowledges he doesn't know about football but instead of listening to other that do he thinks the football world is all wrong and should change to accommodate his way of thinking.
I think that what you have said deserves to be opened out. We are all at the stage where we are trying to second-guess plans A, B, C . . . . The one thing we know with certainty is that AA will accept a worthy buyer or an investor; we know this because he has said as much. Let's quickly deal with Paul Duffen: why is he in the mix with AA? Some have thought it might be his contacts at the council - but is it? What else did he get up to when he wasn't living it large? Manchester Exxon, Liverpool Yahoo and Arsenal Adecco, all have that horribly forced Red Bull Salzburg connotation and no natural connector, so a real struggle to be accepted by the FA - but Hull Tigers, on the other hand, has historic links and a company with Tiger in their own brand identity would be pushing at an almost open door. I seem to recall there being much chatter about talks with Tiger Beer; this was when Duffers had stewardship. But would a nick-name be enough? I very much doubt it - they would want the full brand identity in the club/team name - they have far more to gain than the Venkys ever have at Blackburn. So a couple of questions: After being frustrated in plans A, B, C, is AA now at end game and looking for a sale? Is the deafening silence that of a lobbying period? Will the family purchase and support of North Ferriby United be a sweetener to a name-change agreement? The way in which AA is progressing will end in tears, he will be looking for a way out before it starts effecting his core business and family life.
I bet Allam feels like the geeky kid who's practically forced into having a house party when his old fears have gone out for the night. He knows those nasty supporters will be turning up in his yard to humiliate him in front of everyone and there's nothing he can do about it.
You cant walk away when you have 66m invested in the club, and before you all start spouting on about the PL money, that belongs to Hull City Football club NOT Assam Allam and he can not get his grubby little hands on it. You can not legally take money out of a company and bankrupt it without getting banged up for fraud.
You really are spectacularly stupid aren't you. You really seem unable to respond to anyone without abuse which simply highlights the fact that you are thick. Every time people on here try and engage in debate a moron like you appears. I think we can take it that you have no future as a corporate lawyer.
Well, TT - where's the 'insult' in what merch posted? You, by contrast, call him 'stupid' and 'a moron'........
Taking this campaign inside the ground on a matchday is a massive mistake. It's at this point that it becomes a distraction & a potential excuse for the players on the pitch. You need every point you can get this season, to ensure that you retain your PL status, those seeking to bring the issue of a name change to the game itself, are doing your club no favours imo. As Bruce said this morning on Talksport, it's understandable that fans want to hang on to the heritage & tradition, but given that without the man who's made the call to change the name, there might not even be a badge today to argue about, then a sense of perspective is required here. Keep it out of the ground lads, I've seen it at my own club, it brings nothing but polarised division amongst the fanbase & poor results on the pitch.....
