A late entry in the "my opinion on the name change" category Disclaimer! This is my honest view, and I fully know and respect that this is not the same as the majority of fans or posters on is board. I am not pro AA nor am I a traditionalist (even though from my name you can see supporting the club has been part of my family for a while). The truth is I actually don't mind the idea of the name change. Like I said I'm not a traditionalist so I'm not caught up in the whole "you can't change it because it's always been that way". People from hull are well known for been immensely proud of where they come from, and I'm very much the same. It's this aspect that started my love and attachment to the club. As long as the club represents where I'm from I will support it, the name can change but the club will still be my hometown club and I will continue support a team I love and that represents where I come from. Besides The idea of one day seeing the club "Hull Tigers" been a global brand. That may just be great. I fully understand that many people have strong feelings towards the name, as people have on badge changes in the past. I also don't like AAs attitude to those fans and the way he hasn't quantified or justified the proposed monetary benefits of a change. I also agree that there is no reason we can't be just as successful named Hull City AFC, just improve the marketing department to focus on the nickname if needs be. So basically, I'm not anti name change OR pro Allam. I'm pro my heritage, I'm pro Hull and any sportsmen or team that represents where me and my family come from. UTT
What he needs is a sense of humour and an understanding that he cannot crash about making change in an historic organisation without some form of opposition. He is an intelligent man who chooses not to adapt his style to the market he has entered and that is simply stupid. He has lied to his customers, refused to talk further to both HCC and, I belive, anyone else. But I have a question for our reps on the committee of CTID Having seen the debacle at the match and then read the comments on various boards (things I think, springs to mind), do you seriously expect AA to speak to you about anything? Just for clarity; has the campaign put any proposals to AA since the key meeting - in fact, have you had any contact whatsoever? Okay that's three questions, but I think that in the deafening silence that we have from the club, we should have some answers from the campaign as a reference point to enable us to understand progress.
The problem is, earlier in this thread the top 6 or so clubs in England were used as an example of not changing their names. The thing with this is, they are already successful, and we are trying to plant ourselves into an exclusive club where if we try to compete on even terms, we'll lose. It's a vicious circle in fact, the rich clubs have their success, which in turn generates more income for them, while the other clubs like us and Cardiff, aren't rich, thus find it difficult to compete, meaning we don't get the success they do, and therefore don't generate the same income. Dr Allam clearly recognises this and has to do some "out of the box thinking" (Yes I hate those types of phrases too but it serves a purpose). Selling a few more shirts in the ER won't put us on comparable terms as the top half of the PL. Yes this will help, as will the suggestions OLM gave to me in another thread, any local increase in income has to be good but on its own, it is not enough. Yes this is a gamble, but doing nothing would mean we will almost certainly be doomed to staying bottom half and yoyoing if we're lucky. Changing the status quo enjoyed by the bigger clubs IS going to take something radical, and Dr A could just be a trailblazer who makes a difference. Doing nothing and failing is worse than trying something and failing in my view, and is why I do support Dr Allam.
I'd take 'doing nothing' all day long. Consolidation followed by slow growth, then inward investment for proper reasons not some trashy gimmicky name- as this will only attract ****ish investors.
We have requested further meetings with AA, but at this stage, he seems in no mood to meet us. Apparently, he's pissed off with what we said to the press immediately after the meeting, which is odd as it was agreed with Ash Lord before we left the KC and we merely confirmed the key points we agreed, all of which have now been reneged on.
I am not sure consolidation and slow growth are certainties in a highly competitive environment.Money talks.With a few exceptions of under/over achieving we are already seeing the effect of money on the league table. We have had periods in the past few decades of not being in the doo doo.I do not think AA thinks we will compete with the biggest of the big boys.I do not think his name change (in the short term) is to do with selling shirts.I think it is about hooking a foreign billionaire who is attracted by linking his business/self to the image of a TIGER. WBA and Swansea are unlikely to both be in the Prem in 5 seasons time.They do not have the economic clout to get them through difficult times which affect all clubs. We need to do something startling to elevate our finances above the other 30 or so yo-yo clubs.Blackburn did it with Jack Walker and it sustained them for a long time.Last time I went to Blackburn it did not look like a placecapable of sustain Prem status for as long as they did. There are examples were rich investors have not meant success for medium sized clubs but we have experienced enough under investment to at least give it a try. All AA is doing imo is trying to bait the hook I welcome detailed plans of alternative viable income streams.If there are viable schemes which mean we can keep the name the campaigners want then I will be supportive of it .If not I will go with AA and his plans.He is better at making money than I am.
But - as our nickname is 'The Tigers' - why is a name-change necessary? We are referred to as such, countless times, in the media.
Looks like Avramovic has missed a trick there. It's not about silverware or real estate or prestige or history, it's about cuddly toys.
I do not know Stan.I am not an expert on how different cultures view these things.I have lived abroad at times and have been surprised how even in Europe things are viewed so differently. It is because of the money he has made and the impact he has had on our fortunes that I am prepared to give AA the benefit of the doubt.People can call him whatever they like but he is a winner.Of course he will make mistakes but so do we all. Whatever they are called it will still be my team.I could not imagine life without Boothferry Park-I am surprised how we can adapt and still be happy-and often reflect how good things were then and are today.Without AA all these rows would not be happening because we would have about 3000 fans left-and a right bunch of saddo anoraks we would be (again)
I meant billionaire not millionaire.I have no idea whether they would be attracted by a name.When I look at the gold plated cars and over priced ****e they appear to buy I would not try and guess what goes through their heads. "To be smart enough to make obscene amounts of money you need to be stupid enough to want to" Look at flabby Newcastle owner-surrounds himself with flunkies and makes idiotic decisions-yet still absolutely minted. I think TIGER is far more than a cute name to some cultures. I do not think rhino horn will do much for my libido but plenty of others do
I do not know.Look at AA.He has spent a lot of money on personal glorification.Take his car.Is it for a high business profile or to pamper his ego?I do not know why billionaires spend money on vanity projects but some do.Some have inherited wealth and are probably as thick as the rest of us
