Because for once in the modern lifetime of the club there is a chance of supporters having a real share of the club. Chanting "Assam no" moves it all into a personal level. If anyone thinks that the chants directed against the owner are not different to the City till we die chants, they are missing something. So far the campaign has always maintained that they respect Assem Allam, but posts on here do not reflect that.
I'm failing to see how Allam would take offence other than the fact that we're protesting, rather reasonably and respectfully I might add, against his decision to rename the Club. Even his English is good enough to understand that, "We say no Allam, we say no" is just a voiced opinion on the subject. Not his tenure. Though there are going to be morons in the radio phone-ins and pissheads at the match asking him to leave, the more level-headed City fan, and especially CTWD haven't given any implication that the protests are against Assem.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I shouted that very loud to make it clear that his claim that me going into the ground was a vote in favour of a name change was absolute bollocks.
Same. The way he acts and the things he says, it's impressive that no one has done anything stupid. He's tried to insist that supporting the team we love is supporting his stupid name change. People simply stated their opposition to it, to make it absolutely clear just in case Allam really is as stupid as he portrays himself.
What's the difference? Mr Allam made it clear it's his decision. I don't see anything disrespectful in telling that same person I disagree, particularly when he told us we were voting by turning up. Surely him saying that is exactly the same thing?
This sounds a lot like the chant aimed at a player on the sex offenders register. Whyever would he be offended
I'm sure Allam knows exactly who Marlon King is and is massively offended by the tune he has heard being chanted at rapists at football matches for years /s Seriously, some of your arguments are just embarrassing.
Posters on here really should be able to differentiate and know that every single action thats anti-name change is the work of CTWD. Everyone who opposes the name chane supports the campaign but that doesn't mean the campaign itself orchestrates or supports every word or action taken by its supporters. I don't know if the members of the CTWD committee were responsible for the starting of any chants or not, but there's a stadium of 20 odd thousand people, each who could take action on their own. I'm just pointing that out. I did say to Obi and OLM they need to be more publicly specific on what they do endorse and more importantly their stance on the Allam family's reign. Everyone on these forums will know left from right as the whole thing is done to death but the rest of te clubs support who don't get involved on sites like these don't. When I was outside having a cig at half time there was a bloke saying to the bloke he was with how the CTWD campaign needed to be stopped before they usurped Allam out of the club, he was corrected by another who heard that CTWD only wants nothing more than to preserve the name, but how many others are out there who haven't been corrected? There are some who don't use Internet forums and social media, who see the CTWD campaigning anti name change, hear people saying "Allam out" and calculate 2 + 2 = 5.
Interesting post. They're being associated with the anti name changers who for example have posted offensive mocked up images of Dr Allam, and all the other bile being spouted on here (Allams out, comparing Dr A to a cancer, Ken Bates etc), as the posters are clearly supporters of CTWD. Is it fair? Probably not, but thats the sort of pond life being attracted to this campaign. No amount of "statements" will stop people thinking that. The bold bit above needs correcting, because that is not true, they are NOT just about stopping a name change.
The 'we say no Allam' chant was nothing to do with CTWD. The fact is, that AA has been very insulting towards the fans, it's no wonder some of them have decided to produce their own flags and let him know how they feel. CTWD will make it's case clear and try to attract more supporters to the campaign, but we can hardly be held responsible for the actions of thousands of individuals.
Those with any brains fully understand the boundaries that delimit the responsibilities of CTWD. But the fact of the matter is that people out there will inevitably associate everyone's actions with the "official" opposition group. That is why it's crucial that, just like yesterday, they make public announcements stating the "Official" line on what is or isn't their opinion, even though others actions are NOT their responsibility. I, for one, have been very impressed with the speed and skill at which they have gone from nothing to a properly organised pressure group in only a few weeks.
CTWD will be associated with actions they have not tried to directly instigate.Likewise AA has been accused of wrong doing which there is no proof he is involved with. I think it was Reginald D hunter who warned that if you start a sexual interaction with Mike Tyson it may not end the way you planned.Same applies to stirring up a crowd.Through the offensive gestures/accusations of AA on this forum linked with CTWD topics the personal attacks on AA have become CTWD tactics in the minds of many. Too late -the genie will not fit back into the bottle
I think some kind of slogan to display at games would be the simplest and most effective way of doing it. Like I said clearly there's people who won't use the Internet to see statements. The problem is finding something that doesn't cost a bomb like all the flyers/badges and stuff and doesn't take the place of the big flag. And what words you could use, I can't think of owt that's credible. Are you still having flyers produced? Maybe you could fit something on them?
