Steve Bruce pleas with fans not to distract players

I agree with this, although the more our erratic, egotistical and dishonest our owner becomes the more the focus of the protest will shift.

By saying 'if you attend games you support the name change' or 'no-one can question my decisions' he makes it more about him than the actual issue in hand, which is what we don't want.

 

It looked like pvc to me ............

 

Yes a certain steward, or are you suggesting we name him so he can possibly lose his job? You really are a poodle of the highest order.

I take it you were actually at the game and witnessed it in real life?

 

He's a Sunderland fan with only an outsider's level of involvement in our club's affairs.

 

I'm sure the decision would have been made by whoever has overall responsibility for Health & Safety, eg a John Cooper type (he did leave didn't he ?)

 

It wasn't the whether or what - it was the unnecessary insulting I was referring to. We're all City fans, divided on an issue, but we don't have to descend to such insults.

(I have done so myself, before now, but aim to mend my ways....)

 

If I was a steward and I'm presuming they are on min wage (I might be wrong)and someone said to me "right get over to them fans and take them banners off them"!!. I'd look and think now **** that the banners aren't offensive and this isn't a violent protest so me wading in is going to cause ruptions. So I'm not risking a slap or any agro for min wage.
Sorry Mr Allam or whoever get them banners yourself or get plod in

Your just not wading into a load of fans to get a banner unless you actually fancy a ruck

 

You'd think so but I won't be at all surprised if someone tries it on again...

 

Reading everybody's comments on this forum its obvious we are not as one and i have no idea how it will all end but if and i joined in on Saturday singing City til i die then why can't we sing the song for the full 90 mins and create some atmosphere for the whole game and not just bloody five minutes. Ok its important to many its 109 years of history but at the same time it proves that the passion is there so why when we are so desperate to keep in this league are we not passionate enough to create an atmosphere for the team for the full game. yes show Mr Allam your passion about our history but at the same time show your passion for the team. Get behind um and i know some do but not enough. Hopefully this will all end happily for everyone (i know its down to Mr Allam) but for now carry on but lets be honest the team at the moment does need our help and if you can open your mouth for five minutes its proves you can do it but for me i ask myself why or why can some of our fans not get behind the lads a lot longer. City Til I Die

 

So why am I wasting my time replying to the cretin?

 

This is absolutely correct, but this shouldn't be confused with any name change protest. I understand why you have compared it to demonstrate that the passion is there but someone else will somehow try to use this as a reason to bash the idea of singing and protesting.

 

Good post, John.

 

Hasn't it always been the same against teams we are turning up expecting to beat? I suspect it will be different on Sunday because fans know they have to get behind the team as we are underdogs.

 

If we got an early goal people would be excited but when they are underwhelmed by the performance against a team they expect us to beat, that's when it gets super quiet. For me though the silence isn't as harmful to the team as the groaning whenever someone makes a mistake. That's got to make them fear trying anything again. Then people complain when they just play safe sideways passes

 

When the next generation ask me what I did when AA tried to change us to Hull Tigers, I’m going to able to proudly say that I was part of the movement against it – whatever the outcome may be.

We live in a time where people are condemned for standing up and fighting.

We live in times where people even feel smug about being politically ignorant, taking no interest in our governance and often wear this like a badge:

“I hate all politicians, they’re all the same” etc.

Of course, people with a bit more about them, realise this is just a mask, a borrowed smokescreen to hide someone’s pig ignorance, apathy and wilful neglect and abandonment of playing their role in the future shaping our county. If everyone uses their voice – things can change – as history tell us. As Hull’s history tells us.

This is what brings me back to my earlier point. I don’t want my children to be cowards. I don’t want my children to roll over at adversity wherever it comes. I want my children to have fight, especially fight against things they know to be wrong and still have the will to fight if adversity is against them.

What kind of a message is being sent by these adults/parents who aren't strictly pro name change but believe the fight isn’t worth it, or is futile, or say that Allam might walk away if we ask him to qualify him changing our name? Can you all really hold your heads up high, look the next generation in the eyes and tell them what you did?

Some will, but most will mumble some feeble excuse (such as the backtracking we will see on this forum in the future) as what possible pride can anyone see in appeasement, surrender, ignorance or apathy?

 

I'm not suggesting he should be named so that means I'm not a poodle, a cretin or slow doesn't it?

I wasn't at the game or near the incident but nor were a number of other people posting their opinions on here.

I'm speaking as an outsider, which I've made clear, not as an eye witness.

 

I agree with almost everything you say.

All I'm warning against is being banned from going somewhere you love. I hate to see supporters of any club banned.

You have to ask yourself that, if you were banned for life as the result of being caught up in a chaotic scuffle with a steward who would take your kids?

You'd probably regret it especially if the steward turned out to be Leeds supporter.

All I'm saying is that the club and police will always back the stewards so be carefull.

 

I don't understand why people say " You only made noise during the protest , get behind the team "

Nobody is stopping anybody getting behind the team , if the protest was a minority whats the excuse for the rest of the people in the ground to be so quiet the whole match ?
Sing up all you Hull Tigers fans or not bothered about the name people

 

They won't cos there's no more than about a dozen 'one issue' WUM turds on here, and I doubt if they actually go to games.

 

I would sing up but by mere matter of coincidence every time someone starts a chant happens to be just as I'm stuffing my face on my prawn sandwiches.