It's only about three foot deep and it was on the move, it restricted bugger all... please log in to view this image There was no such issue with the 'Fans Not Criminals' banner we had at the time of the bubbled Huddersfield game... please log in to view this image
I'm not saying people are missing the match but it obviously gives the stewards the perfect excuse doesn't it? I'm sure most people didn't mind having a momentary lack of vision during that match but the stewards can claim they're in the right.
That's the irony. The bigger one, passed over peoples heads went unnoticed, the smaller one, passed at the bottom so obscuring nobody in reality, generated the fuss. It's one occasion where having incompetent stewards had an advantage. It's certainly increased coverage, and I don't believe it influenced the performance negatively.
That was AFTER the stewards jumped in, and still disrupted less than the others that passed without incident. Molehill made mountain by incompetent stewards.
As I've said, it gives them just the excuse they need. If they weren't acting on the owners instructions you'll find out at the next home game. The exterior stewards won't search people for flags and the interior stewards won't play tug of war. Then you'll know for sure if it's 'useless steward' or people acting on the club's instructions. BTW, you can't say people's view ins't restricted, it is ........ no matter how happy they are for that to be the case.
Given they've behaved that way for several years, I doubt it'll be any different, and I'm already okay with what I know and/or suspect based on years of first hand experience but it's pretty much immaterial anyway.
It wasn't as if anyone could really miss the CTWD flag either, it wasn't exactly small... please log in to view this image
Aye, back on track. I think Bruce has tried like hell to keep out of all this and get on with his job. Like the same nonsense when journalists ask him about Sunderland, he tries to bat it away because he knows they'll trim replies to selective soundbites. A few minutes of daft stewarding's hardly liable to upset players. The 'protest' is actually very supportive of the players.
What about ghe momentary lack of vision caused by stewards walking self importantly up and down? Something they seem to do more at fhe KC than elsewhere. For some reason halfway into each half they slowly walk down the aisles and vack up again for some unknown reason. It can't. E to check fhe aisles are clear as the other week Villa fans were blocking an aisle and they had to struggle through. Needless to say they were too gutless to ask them to move but are quick to pounce on a home fan sat with his foot too far out for their liking. On Saturday on the video taken by a Palace fan some of their fans climb up onto barriers with not a word from ghe stewards stood next to them. It seems ground regulations are something the high-viz idiots only enforce on home fans.
I agree with absolutely everything you say, our stewards are absolute knobs most of the time. However, in absolutely every confrontation the police will side with the stewards and the supporters will be ejected or banned. It's not fair but it's reality. If you believe that being in the right will be any compensation for listening to the match on local radio, every Saturday, then that's your choice. I'm just pointing out that the stewards will be backed by the club and police whereas you'll come across as troublemakers to many people. Not fair but true.
This is poor form from Brucie, deflecting blame for a poor tactical performance. Supporters chanting does not affect his tactics or how the players play football
If he didn't then he may well be annoyed at the confrontation and the adverse publicity. If that's the case then the chief steward will be given clear instructions before the next home game to allow the banners without confrontation.
Bruce has been cornered in the Presser and it's fair to say the flag fiasco didn't help. But neither did it hinder, is what he ought to have said. No point in trying to drag SB into this, his job is to sort out the team not pronounce on all this ****.
It's a slippery slope when "City" becomes a dirty word, a word to be hidden and never uttered. Signage around the stadium is being changed, the stadium announcer no longer uses it (and who's idea was that?), next season there will be no mention of "City" anywhere around the KC. How long before any songs including the "C" word are deemed to be anti Allam and not supportive of the team?
A good piece by Phil Buckingham... N THIS calendar year of astounding highs at the KC Stadium, there is a sudden danger that 2013 could yet end on a foreboding low for Hull City. A first home defeat of the Premier League season was a deflating affair to behold on every level. If being beaten by a Crystal Palace side without a point on their travels all season were not bad enough, the unsightly image of unrest on the terraces only added to an uneasy mood building ahead of the season's busiest month. Steve Bruce put on a brave face, insisting days such as these are par for this most difficult of courses, but the City boss will have seen his weekend haunted by untimely doubts. The positivity built inside Autumn is withering ahead of Winter's first weeks. A once vibrant team, full of vigour and drive, is losing its way. Just four points have now come from a possible 18 since a 1-0 win over West Ham took them seventh at the end of September, with just three goals scored along the way. There have been some injustices in that period, most notably at Everton and Spurs, but there could be no excuses for a sixth defeat of the season. City were dismal from start to finish and Palace, reduced to 10 men when Yannick Bolasie was dismissed, were good enough to take advantage with a first win since August. There was something painfully inevitable about Barry Bannan's 81st-minute winner for a side that began the day bottom of the Premier League. Then, just to darken the occasion further, there was the regrettable flashpoint in the East Stand midway through the first half. Attempts to parade a banner that innocuously read "We are Hull City" were halted by heavy-handed stewarding and, for the first time since owner Assem Allam announced plans to be rebranded as Hull Tigers, the controversial and emotive issue had spilled into a match day. Blame the tactless stewards, blame the excitable fans or blame Allam's rationale. Take your pick. But there was something unhealthy about the whole episode. Cracks of division are creeping through the club at precisely the wrong time. The incident contributed nothing to City's demise, of course, but the distraction is quite clearly building. If Bruce is correct and Allam is not for turning, the elephant in the room may soon start trampling on the good work of all parties. And that really would be a crying shame. Bruce already has enough on his plate to be fretting about unity, as Saturday's demise told him all too well. The Tigers' worst performance of the season was bereft of fluency, rhythm and incision. Palace were little better, but did find the fixture's one moment of top-flight class to snatch three points. This was a City side unbeaten at home since April against a visitor still searching for a first away point of the season. Tony Pulis, appointed Palace manager three hours before kick-off, knew the odds were stacked against his new charges. Worryingly, the Tigers were also close to being back to full strength. Only Sone Aluko, James Chester and Stephen Quinn remain absent but it is the first of that trio that City so desperately miss. Without Aluko's wizardry and spark, Bruce's men are prone to the predictable. Robbie Brady, recalled to partner Yannick Sagbo in attack, was anonymous, while the supposed wide threats of George Boyd and Robert Koren were too narrow to ever trouble a Palace defence led comfortably by ex-Tiger Damien Delaney. Even Tom Huddlestone and Jake Livermore, City's slick midfield pair, were a shadow of their best. A wretched first half ensued. "You're only here for the culture," sang the home supporters towards their visitors during the first half, rejoicing at being announced UK City of Culture for 2017 this week. Their trip clearly wasn't for the entertainment, that was clear. Banner-gate lifted the atmosphere momentarily, with all corners of the KC jeering the ill-advised actions of the stewards. Allam, who claimed opposition to Hull Tigers amounted to just 200 fans, could not have missed the thunderous reaction. The most important action at least improved after the break. Boyd's excellent feet paved the way for Sagbo to burst clear, thwarted by the brave block of goalkeeper Julian Speroni, while Palace began to gamble on the counter attack. Only Ahmed Elmohamady's timely tackle denied Dwight Gayle a wonderful chance before Cameron Jerome and Bolaise threatened from distance. Bolasie's afternoon ended soon after. A frustration at failing to get a shot off on the edge of a crowded box saw possession surrendered and though he lacked malice, the winger's uncontrolled challenge on Livermore made Bolasie the fourth player dismissed at the KC this season. The leg up City needed? No. Quite the opposite, in fact. Within two minutes of being reduced to 10 men, Palace delivered the deathblow. Capitalising on lamentable defending from the Tigers, Jerome was allowed to advance into the penalty area and wisely pull back for Bannan to strike his first goal in over two years. City responded in search of a late equaliser and almost found it. Once a scramble was cleared off the line by Dean Moxey, the unlikely source of a goal, Liam Rosenior, fired against the upright from 20 yards out. There would, however, be no reprieve. Now comes a first test of character since promotion. Back-to-back defeats could feasibly become four straight losses with Liverpool and Arsenal to come next, an eventuality that would leave the Tigers pegged back to a ratio of a point a game. That would remain a commendable return for a top-flight newcomer, but momentum and togetherness is in danger of leaving the building in these closing weeks of 2013. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Anal...tory-20171465-detail/story.html#ixzz2lejNUifm
8) Hull fans have right to make their feelings known The sight of stewards attempting to tear down protest banners in football grounds is always disquieting. Whatever Hull owner Assem Allam maintains, there can be no doubt there is significant opposition among the club's supporters to his plan to change the name of Hull City AFC to Hull Tigers, and those supporters have a right to make their feelings known. The resulting altercation during the defeat to Crystal Palace threatened to become genuinely unpleasant until the stewards backed off and, in fairness to Mr Allam, it may have been a case of over-zealousness on the part of dunder-headed employees rather than orders from on high that caused the problem. After all, while even Hull being named the UK's City of Culture for 2017 does not appear to have given Mr Allam pause for thought, it is impossible to believe a man who left Egypt a political refugee from the Nasser regime would dream of attempting to suppress legitimate protest. Richard Rae http://www.theguardian.com/football...e-10-talking-points-weekend-action?CMP=twt_gu
