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Steve Bruce pleas with fans not to distract players

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Be Rugby Tit, Nov 25, 2013.

  1. TigerinSydney

    TigerinSydney Well-Known Member

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    Sorry - I'm specifically referring to protests during a game. Of course protests are worthwhile - there is a time and a place though...
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

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    1) Im not attending games in protest whilst this name change is ongoing. I've already stated that.

    2) I don't believe "it is certain to have a negative pact (sic) on the team". I think that's Bruce following the party line to stop fans publicly protesting, embarrassing the owner and giving credibility to the campaign. It's also being used to turn fans against each other.

    If you're telling me players differentiate between songs - and it was a ****ing positive song by the way - then I'm not having it. They notice atmosphere. It's not as if fans were aiming vitriol at the pitch, there's a huge difference.
     
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  3. TigerinSydney

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    My strong opinion is that protesting during a game has a negative impact on the team - I can't believe people think it could have anything other than a negative impact. I seriously question some of our fans thinking around this - you are protesting during a game against the club - the players understand that and it doesn't spur them on at all..
     
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  4. bum_chinned_crab

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    If the whole stadium sang "**** off Allam" you might have a point. IT WAS SINGING "CITY TILL I DIE", a song we have sung for years. It never had a negative impact before, so why would it now?
     
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  5. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    From "Things We Think We Think":

    6: Things are in danger of spiralling out of control with regards to the name change. Assem Allam has obstinately dug his heels in, aggravating matters by breaking promises, sounding insulting, preposterous and wholly unaware of how to communicate with football fans. Meanwhile, City fans are mentally manning the barricades, and with such ill-feeling in the air it’s difficult to see this ending well. And that, for the record, is 100% the fault of Assem Allam.

    6a: Hilariously, a few people have tried to pin the Palace defeat on City fans with a City banner singing ‘City till I die’. Just think about that for a second, they’re saying displaying and chanting the name of our team is negative, how does that calculate? Some have said any protest should be kept outside of the ground and we’d normally largely agree with that, but our owner has said that anyone attending games is effectively casting a referendum vote for Hull Tigers, so the only place anyone can rebuff that preposterous statement is in the stadium, during games. Those chants of City Till I Die after the flag fracas didn’t seem to echo a minority feeling, and there were certainly more than 200 people making their feelings felt.

    8: We suspect the club will attempt to ban flag and banners next week, possibly via another cherishably unhinged Club Statement. The match is on Sky, and the opportunity for the club to take another public mauling is huge. We therefore strongly recommend anyone planning to take a protest flag or banner to take them in – you’ll either get them shown to a global audience, or the club will inflict another PR disaster upon itself.

    9: The only minor risk here is that with feelings running so high, and the prospect of more moronic utterances this week inflaming passions even further, is things go too far. Please, please, please, keep it loud but keep it legal. City fans are being lauded across the country as proponents of a just cause and occupiers of the moral high ground – that is priceless, and it’s essential we keep it that way.

    10: Apropos of flags, wasn’t the City Till We Die flag excellent? It’s already been signed by many times more people than the 200 so laughably asserted by the terminally unaware. It’s also great to see so many people sign up as members of that group. If you haven’t, please feel free to do so here – it’s only £2, you get a wristband, and the opportunity to stand up for the history of Hull City AFC.

    http://www.ambernectar.org/blog/2013/11/things-we-think-we-think-124/?
     
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  6. TigerinSydney

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    I think singing city till I die at 19.04 is a very good idea. It is a great song and makes the point in a positive way to the owner

    But that isn't what I am referring to
     
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  7. DMD

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    The disruption wasn't due to the protest, it was due to **** stewarding.
     
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  8. DMD

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    Tenfoot isn't CI. most on there don't like him, and you keep mixing CTWD with posters on here. Still you've never really let get facts get in the way of a contrary whinge before, so why start now?.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    Unless protesters are actually looking for confrontation, to gain attention, why not restrict protests to singing/ chanting during home games with the 19.04 idea etc.

    'Banner protests' at away games would happen without the fear of Allam's stewards intervening.

    It would also be more easily seen when the cameras focus on the away section and there'd be no 'distractions' for Bruce to latch onto.

    Everyone's a winner.
     
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  10. Obadiah

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    Carrying the flag from one side of the East Stand to the other and back wasn't distracting. The applause it got may have been, but a professional football team should be able to cope with that. God help us if we every get into Europe and play in Italy if the players can be put off that easily.

    What was distracting was the heavy handed response of the stewards which turned a peaceful walk into a major incident, at least in Hull City terms. If the banner had got back to the South East corner it would have been folded up and put away. If they'd have tried the walk again I'm certain they'd have been told once was enough lads, we want to watch the match by supporters in the East Stand.The stewards reaction made it international news.

    The name change has shown that the Tiger nation is a house divided and that will affect the whole of the club. You may blame the hundreds and thousands that think our name is important enough to campaign to keep it, but there is only one man to blame, Assem Allam. He made the announcement at the beginning of our most important season. He did nothing to prepare or consult with the fans and explain why he wants to change the name. His response has been its my club I do what I want and if asked to justify it replies nobody tells me how to run my business. We are losing our Chief Executive and don't have a replacement yet. He's brought players to the club with the promise of European football and then messes up the Shane Long deal. There is more to worry about in our club then a 5 minute walk with a banner.

    Finally singing City Till I Die at 19:04 will continue. It supports the team and lets everybody else, MoTD included, know we are Hull City and want to stay that way. Does Steve Bruce want us to stop singing any songs with City in them?
     
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  11. DMD

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    The same stewards would cause the same disruption. It's not really a protest issue, we've always had incompetent stewards. They've done similar without the need of a 'protest'. Stewards at away grounds have already refused banners, despite all the prior approvals being asked for and obtained.
     
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  12. DMD

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    This. ^^^^^
     
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  13. Beverley_Tiger_998

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    There were no protests for the 85 minutes of the game they were still ****e in. Same goes for Southampton and Sunderland too. I support the protest, the team should be able to deal with it. Once again the only argument from the other side Is anyone who doesn't support Allam must be a neanderthal with mush for brains. Grow up and battle your corner on merit not insult.
     
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  14. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    This ^^^^^^^^
     
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  15. Tony Angelino

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    It's funny how players say "once kick off comes you don't really take notice/hear the crowd". So all of a sudden a city till I die chant (which gets chanted every game) has suddenly had a negative effect on the team. If there had been singing negative things at individual players or the team then fairenough.
    I would think Bruce maybe needs to look at factors like:
    Lack of inventiveness attacking wise
    Elmo's no more of a right back than Iam
    The obvious lack of firepower (whilst we need a striker sometimes I wonder if Rvp would score in our team, if we don't get a cross in we don't create any other way)
    What's this about Brady not getting over his injury mentally, I didn't realise he had a career threatening injury or have I missed that?
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    How?
     
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  17. DMD

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    The same way they do at many other games, by being incompetent.
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

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    But how would the stewards cause the same disruption, as Saturday, if people are only singing?

    Not being difficult, I just don't understand what you're saying.
     
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  19. DMD

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    They've caused disruption at other games for less than singing. They're crap.
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    But that's nothing to do with the protests is it?
     
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