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Queens Park Rangers v Charlton Athletic Match Thread

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by Addick4Life, Nov 22, 2013.

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    A few thoughts on the way back.

    Hamer MOM

    We were toothless. 4-5-1 . Hopeless. One shot at goal ?

    Yann came on after an hour

    Pritchard and Stewart both awful, everyone else did ok just not good enough

    Wiggins struggled v Matt Phillips

    This team badly badly needs a goal threat or we are going down

    Great support.
     
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    Cheers, V-a-V. That's what it sounded like. Harriott on the right again? He never used to play there. Apart from the first 5 minutes his name was hardly mentioned when he came on. If we still have no goal threat on tuesday we're right in it.
     
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    CH couldn't get into it when he came on. Yank won a few headers. Can't complain too much, we just haven't got the goals on this team to make us a threat. The quality isn't there. Good to see BH return to form, some great saves today.
     
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    If a win against Donny is not forthcoming, then we really are in the poo. We have nowt up front and no decent sources of creativity, and we lack any invention with set-pieces. How on earth has CP allowed himself to build a squad so bereft of attacking nous? He must take some responsibility for this.

    I know many fans will take comfort from a one goal defeat to a top side, but QPR win most of their games by the same margin. The manner of the defeat is hard to stomach, and confidence must be dropping like a stone both in the dressing room and the boardroom.

    Being content with slim defeats is a recipe for disaster and will ultimately lead to CP losing his job. I don't want that to happen, but I can sense it is very near.

    Still no takers for the freebie Donny ticket?
     
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  5. OzAddick

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    Sign Berisha from Brisbane Roar in the A League, the standout striker in our dire league.
     
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    I actually partly agree with Ponders. My initial reaction was 'okay we lost but QPR are a potential Premier side, and it was only 1-0'. But, you can go through an entire season explaining away defeat after defeat till you get relegated and can't work out why. It sounds like we gave it a bit of a go, and it sounds like Kermo is on his way back, but we need goals. The Leeds defeat was arguably worse, but that's two on the trot now, so we need a reaction next time out.
     
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    I overslept and missed the game despite having tickets <laugh>. Reading the match reports and the feedback on here, it all seems pretty consistent - competed without ever looking likely to win. That's what a goal scorer brings - 90 minutes of nothing but will then be able to pop up with a winner.

    Vol, what was so bad about Stewart? Was it a poor game or could he just not get in to it?
     
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    Doesn't help watching Parker and Shelvey score two beauties in the Fulham/Swansea game.
    The CAFCplayer was horrible, it may be PC to have a woman commentating, but it just doesn't work.
    The lack of penetration is a worry, I'd give Danny Green another try on the right in the hope that he has one of his occasional excellent games, when he is a match-winner. I don't want him on the left, either.
     
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    I am sure you are right that they have a woman commentating just to be PC but I wouldn't generalise that it would never "work". I could imagine there could be excellent women commentators, but she is not one. She speaks clearly, which many of the ex-footballer commentators and summarizers do not do, and she has done her homework on the players and the history, but has too many other drawbacks, mainly the pitch of her voice and her habit of constantly stating the blindingly self-evident. I usually switch to the opposing commentary on Player, but there wasn't one on Saturday.

    I would like commentators to just concentrate on who has the ball, in which area of the field, and leave all the anecdotes and speculation for stoppages in play.
     
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    No hunger or bollocks.

    Stewart didn't put enough effort in yesterday. Quick to shrug his shoulders and slump, his body language was terrible. He is one of those ten a penny League One journeymen who will have a good game in every five. One of the good things about a takeover is that we can drum his type of out of the club quick.
     
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    I thought he was a winger? So that would make it one in ten (same as Green, Wagstaff and Harrriott, although the latter still has time on his side). Still a better percentage than Sordell, though.

    Doesn't his loan expire shortly anyway? We are stuck with Sordell for the season, though.
     
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    off topic,12 days since Tewks last posted.Hope he is ok.
     
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    Did something happen with Tewkes ?
     
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    I am pretty sure we have a break clause in Sordell's loan deal in January.

    At half time at QPR he was sent out to warm up in front of the Charlton fans in the corner. A few gave him the bird (I might have been one of them). He was laughing & joking like he hasn't got a care in the world. Great pro.
     
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    He is probably on his Saga holidays Caribbean cruise. I bet he is sitting at the Captain's table every night.
     
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    Watching the extended highlights and listening to the commentary I'd say the result could have been a lot worse. Whereas last week against Leeds everything came off for them, whenever they threatened our goal McCormack scored, QPR's strikers were pretty wasteful, not to take away from a good performance by Hamer.
    The Doctor sounded very subdued after the game as well, admitted we should have done more, reminded me a bit of Parky in his later days.
    With Jordan Cousins as the only Academy product to be starting games, our owners strategy of investing heavily in the Academy shows little sign of bearing fruit. Pigott and Harriott have not benefitted at all from the experience of playing for the first-team, quite the reverse, although the opposite is true for Solly and Cousins. Maybe CP is better at working with defenders. His instructions to Pigott to "Go out there and make a nuisance of yourself" were not, I'm sure, the sort of advice he used to get from Nathan Jones. No idea what advice Harriott gets, but he never used to be sent out to play wide right.
     
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    Harriott needs a run of games in the side to get his confidence & consistency back. He gave a horrible, bitty little cameo when he came on Saturday, and really struggled to make any impression. A small chant went up from our fans second half- "4-4-2". It is absolutely pitiful to play this way, even with the accepted limitations of our current squad. Very often on Saturday Simon Church did not have another Charlton player within 20 yards of him.

    Powell has got to improve tactically !
     
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  18. Ponders Revisited

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    The fact we lost by a single goal seems to have pleased many supporters. The way we lost is cause for real concern, though. It was a woeful showing by a team bereft of any attacking impetus. We should have played Church, Kermit and Sordell up top and just whacked the ball into the box at every opportunity. Desperate, I know, but a damn sight more effective than the **** we offered up instead.
     
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    Spot on.

    I find it incredible that some are rejoicing that we "only" lost 1-0 on Saturday !!

    Don't you get zero points whether you lose 1-0 or 10-0 ?
     
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    We're lucky McCormack wasn't playing for QPR.
    Anyone think CP seemed unusually subdued after the match. He knew it wasn't good enough, and probably doesn't know how to improve things. This was probably the team he believes to be his strongest. Look at his attacking options- He clearly doesn't rate Green or Pigott, Harriott has gone backwards ...er....that's it.
     
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