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League 2 in 3 years or 4??

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    I am not having a dig at anyone here, but I do find it incredible that folk withdrew their attendance over the bubble but will not over this. Without us there is no club, no interest on investment, no players wages, no gift to the ??? Of Hull (what was that word?).
     
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  2. Fez

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    And the odd one from under their stone <whistle>
     
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  3. Happy Tiger

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    Yeah I've been wondering that. Me and the rest of us that went to that game have been roundly condemned, mocked and demonised for daring to go support our team, after leaving cars in a ****ty motorway carpark, then going on a march. The suggestion being the real fans "did something" and stayed away to make their feelings known and the (in)action by these proper supporters is what made WYP...erm, apologise or something. Plus of course, they were protecting all other teams fans from being bubbled as well as showing up WYP. By boycotting an important game, on principle.

    Funny how that view has changed, now they have an actual real chance to make a point and stand by the courage of their convictions. Those that do, whilst I disagree with their view on the name, I can respect their decision to take that step and be counted.

    A good chant would be "where were you when we got bubbled?"
     
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  4. Fez

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    Well Happy, I wouldn't go as far as to say all that,as I believe there was lots of sincerity on all sides. Equally, I am not asking the question to be divisive, as I can understand that we enact our club loyalty in different ways. I am just curious to understand; how else do we learn?
     
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  5. Leon_

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    I think it&#8217;s a different issue Fez.

    Assem Allam, the club or the pro name changers will not dictate to me how I should or can protest.

    None of them will have any input nor sway over me in this issue.

    Naturally I will still listen to reason and I&#8217;m still open to all eventualities &#8211; providing little things like logic or evidence is apparent.

    However, you have my total respect if you decide to stay away from City games in protest and it is something I might consider down the line &#8211; but that will be my choice.

    As for the bubble, there was no dictat from WYP of how I should protest. I, like many others, boycotted the game instead of validating the harsh treatment by WYP. This was to demonstrate that such unnecessary draconian measures would not be tolerated and I felt that a mass non turnout would have sent a message to the police, club and the wider football network.

    Sadly, not all fans shared this opinion and its strength was somewhat undermined.

    I am still genuinely puzzled that some fans believe the best way to protest was to accept this treatment and attend regardless.
     
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  6. Happy Tiger

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    Wasn't aimed at you Fez, rather aimed at Terry, who still thinks the best way then to protest was to not accept the treatment, stay away, let the team down and yet doesn't, strangely, feel as passionate about this name bollocks.
     
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  7. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    The selfish 'fans' who felt they had to tick the Huddersfield away box let City fans down, they let football fans all over the country, but, you know. most of all....they let themselves down.

    The message they sent out was 'You can impose any kind of corrupt irrational unjustified unwarranted illogical treatament on us....and we still accept it, so it can't really be that bad.'
     
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  8. PLT

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    So if you were in that situation you'd agree to anything she said, no matter how ridiculous it was, out of fear that she might ruin you financially?

    Yeah see how many join in with that one <ok>

    RE staying away, that's what Allam wanted. He wants the opposition to **** off and let him to carry on business as usual getting his own way without question. Carrying on going to games and voicing our support for CTWD and our opposition to the name change is the best way to protest for most of us. Fez doesn't want to give any more of his money to the owner and who can blame him? Doesn't mean we'll all want to do it that way though.
     
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  9. Newland Tiger

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    The bubble game was a one-off , this is ongoing and we are still called Hull City , going to the match yesterday and protesting was the right thing for me , you have to decide for yourself
     
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  10. Barchullona

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    How did they let the team down? The players don't know we are there as the noise generated by us isn't noticed by the players. We have been told that by some on here and I didn't notice you telling them they were wrong.

    Funny isn't it? Some people say that singing doesn't matter as the players don't know what is going on in the crowd yet at the same time reckon the players have been distracted by a banner. I don't know how the players abroad manage to concentrate with all the flags waving about and fireworks going off.
     
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  11. Happy Tiger

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    Erm re-read it. I was referring to the accusations leveled at those of us who went to Udders, marched, then watched the game. I don't for one minute think the players give one crap about banners, or the name of the club for that matter. I haven't even seen anything said about it all from one of our ex legends either.
     
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  12. Fez

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    Unless it is something extreme, then the coaching staff and the players own professionalism will get them through the two and half hours pitch time. I think it is the supporters who struggle. My way of dealing with it is that I consider AA to be taking the Mickey; I mean, he gets my money now and he would tomorrow, so why is he treating me like ****e? Answers on the back of a postcard to 'Dis-loyal Gaffer' c/o the KC Stadium.
     
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    I still believe the that we should erect a bronze statue of Mr Allam opposite City Hall, in exchange for him giving up the name change idea. I think that is fair.
     
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    isn't it usual to only put up statues to dead people? when can we do it?

    (i jest, btw)
     
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  15. merchantman5

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    BULLSHIT. If he is so shallow that he walks away over this then ****ing good riddance. Further more what do you think it will do to his other business interests. Would you honestly want to do business with someone that rides roughshod over his customers which at the end of the day WE are. I know I wouldn't. There is been ruthless in business and been ruthless, it would be the end of his business interests customers would desert him like the plague.
     
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  16. merchantman5

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    You could say that about most clubs in the EPL. If Abramovich walked away from Chelsea, the Glasers from Man U, the Arabs from Man City to name but a few would sink so your arguement is flawed
     
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  17. merchantman5

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    As he probably gave the order to remove the banner he embarrased himself.
     
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  18. merchantman5

    merchantman5 Well-Known Member

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    Oh right MUPPET if we didn't pay our entrance fee, buy the merchandise there would be no club, so sorry we DO own the club
     
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