There is no doubt in my mind that thr attempted removal of the flag was instigated by the owners. In the end, this actually resulted in a bigger impact, so in a way it back fired on them.
Confrontation with Allam as a tactic should not be the way to go. Allam will almost certainly re-retaliate to yesterday's incident in some way.
One of the stewards was talking to the person next to me said that the order came from upstairs, and wasn't a steward acting off their own back. Whether that is passing the buck or not, I will leave you to conclude yourselves.
Here we go again. What should be a thread focussed on some of the most unnecessary and tactless stewarding seen for a long time is being swamped by a 'you said, I said' pi**ing contest. I've no idea who ordered the intervention, but someone did, and from whatever level it came it showed total distain for the fans expressing their legitimate view. Sadly, although I have long believed that certain the stewards frequently behave in a thoughtless manner and it could therefore have been them, I am more and more coming to the view that Papa Allam resents the CTWD group and that it could therefore have been him. Whoever it was, the stewards actions were unwarranted. Also, it was predictable that other fans would join in the tug of war. Was the decision taker being amazingly naive or intentionally provocative?
If this were true, the decision taker would have been happy to see the actions reach their natural conclusion.
This whole issue has gradually shifted from a name change one to a 'no one questions what I do' one. The focus of AA's ire has now turned from the council to a vast majority of our support. Very depressing and troubling for our future, whatever our name.
The stewards had definitely been told to try and keep people in line, they were threatening to eject Premier Club members for standing for the 19.04 chant and the stewards never normally talk to Premier Club members about anything. Everyone told them to **** off, so they did. Ash is a good lad, his job's a ****ing nightmare.
Whoever it was, he/she was being incredibly stupid. If, as I suspect, the OIC instructed the stewards to back off yesterday, the powers that be will seek to stop that kind of thing before it starts next time. I suspect there will now be a carpet ban on flags in the stadium, with people being searched upon entry. Very sad.
The banner's etc are checked by stewards before they get in the ground now, they have been for years.
Couldn't see exactly what was happening with the tussle, just heard the booing but I sit opposite our dug out and looked up to where Mr Allam sits and he was pointing towards where the fracas was and saying something to whoever was next to him. Someone on twitter said he had heard from someone at the KC that no flags would be allowed into the ground in future. We will have to wait and see if this is true. As I said on another thread people around me who do not normally sing actually stood up and sang City Till I Die and saw some people in South Stand do the same. How I would have loved the whole stadium to follow. Must say though the chanting is getting louder and more widespread every game. No need for confrontational behavior that may sour things, just everyone sing.
As they felt the banner was alright to go in yesterday, I don't see how. They can dictate where and how it's displayed though.
You've lost your way big time Chazz. At least previously some of your inane crap used to be a little amusing, now you're just a ****ing disgrace who doesn't even have the decency to use correct punctuation most of the time.