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Scargill and the miners?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Calamty Jane, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    You do crass offensive things, people take issue with it, money or not.

    It really is that simple.
     
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  2. Wessie

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    So because he gave the club a loan and is earning interest off this loan (which saved the club), he can't be criticised? Gosh, well why not get Wonga involved next time we're in the **** and then not allow us to criticise them when they want to call us Wonga FC.

    Neither gratitude nor sentiment should provide anyone with immunity when it comes to criticism or blame.
     
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  3. Calamty Jane

    Calamty Jane Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you -but maybe I am lying through my teeth again.
    If I was AA I would be getting pretty angry after today.I doubt he lacks the imagination to hurt us if we hurt him.I think he has the power in this contest.It is ok to huff and puff but it is who wins the day.Thatcher beat Scargill regardless of rights and wrongs.Scargill probably caused more damage to ordinary workers than most right wingers.This is why I am trying to warn against listening to propaganda put out by this campaign.I was singing the usual songs before the "we say" chant.I could not be arsed after that because I find the idea of having a go at the guy who saved the club abhorrent and felt singing would be taken as supporting the boo boys.He has an idea that may or may not work .It is probably reversible.I credit him with our success and his ideas have produced unprecedented progress.
    There were 6 of us in a line in E2 who always sing.I did not talk to them about it we just fizzled out.These are the ones who make the little atmosphere there is.
     
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  4. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    Yes he did.

    But you need to stop making irrelevant analogies with the 80s political situation.
     
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  5. Calamty Jane

    Calamty Jane Well-Known Member

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    Great Wessie.So we can now vent our spleen when we feel like it.I would like to see how you protest to a skinny kid throwing litter on the street and then see if you do the same when a gang of thugs do the same thing in front of you.
    Consequences?will you bail us out if AA "does one"?
    This is like a teenager who has a major strop thus ruining the Florida trip for everyone when he doesn't get everything he wants"It"s so unfair!!!!"
     
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  6. Calamty Jane

    Calamty Jane Well-Known Member

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    It is your opinion they are irrelevant-I think it is a reasonable argument thanks
     
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  7. Willson

    Willson Well-Known Member

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    'We say no Allam, We say no' can you explain how that is 'having a go'? Seems like some people just wanting to explain their viewpoint on what is to the majority a ridiculous decision.
     
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  8. PLT

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    You're being ridiculous. No one wants the name change.
     
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  9. Obadiah

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    I only campaign over the name. I'd like to see him make Hull City a thriving business success so he can get his money back and leave it to his children and grandchildren. Assem Allam says we need money to compete in the Premier League and I agree with him. There is no magic formula, success, sustained success, brings in money. If he has run out of money for the club, which is what he says in interviews, why not turn to the people who care about the club the most, its supporters.

    You may take the pee out of my suggestion but do you really think changing the name to Hull Tigers is going to change any investor's mind? Either they want to be associated with our club or they don't. Turning City into Tigers isn't going to bring in the investment needed. The Asians aren't that stupid.

    Today was an indication of what people feel about the name of their club. We are not a tiny minority, if he has any business sense he will realise he is alienating a lot of his customers. I hope he steps back and reconsiders his approach and asks to meet the fan groups again. I suspect he won't.

    The FA will make its decision on any application the club makes. They will consider whether there has been enough consultation. I suspect they won't even define it in public. The vote will be behind closed doors and we'll find out the outcome eventually.
     
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  10. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    Is AA playing the role of Scargill or Baroness Thatcher??!?!?!
     
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  11. mostynthecat

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    maybe if the majority of fans had vowed not to give Duffen and Bartlett (which if they had run the club properly - we would have been a more attractive prospect to potential owners and then Allam would not have got the club - which the current protestors would have liked) a single more penny. I really am getting a whiff of something I do not want to accuse anyone of
     
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  12. Stuart Blampey

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    Spunk breath?
     
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  13. PLT

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    No one knew Duffen and Bartlett were **** until they left. It only emerged later. Allam screams out in every interview that he's a dick. IMO it's incredible he's been loved for so long given all the crap he's spouted even before the name change.
     
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  14. Wessie

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    Why would the protestors have liked it if AA never got his hands on the club?

    They have time and time again said until they were blue in the face that it is the name change they are against, not the ownership.

    We are simply saying, as fans of the club, and as customers of his business, we don't like one of his ideas and would like it if he would either consult the fans (i.e. his customers), or better yet, put to bed this silly pipedream of calling us Hull Tigers earning us massive revenue.
     
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  15. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Oi, MISSED THE BUS! You make two mistakes:

    1/ It's not comparable to the Scargill/NUM - Thatcher battle in the 80s. Allam isn't trying to break the City fans so the next lot will be afraid and easy meat;

    2/ You brought a political 'analogy' into the frame, in front of our resident Rottweiler (Asbo).....<laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
     
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  16. Calamty Jane

    Calamty Jane Well-Known Member

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    The one who humiliated the other one.The ones to feel sorry for were the misled miners.Now the lads who tussled with the stewards today(it was being filmed by the police next to E1)Will be banned from the KC I would think.
    I doubt the leaders of the protest in less volatile parts of the ground took the same risks for the cause.Same old same old.
    I look forward to seeing the tussle when the leaders in the West stand unfurl their banner and the roar when they start chanting.
     
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  17. Obadiah

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    Using your example. The FA is Thatcher and Assem Allam is Scargill. He is the one telling the FA he has already changed the playing name and its his business he can do what he wants.

    Are you saying the 7 of you support keeping our current name but found the "We say no" chant disrespectful? Or are you using that chant as an excuse to have a go at the campaign?

    This is an honest question. I like most of the things he's done for the club and feel he should be respected for that. However I don't think he should mess with our name without asking us first. He hasn't asked so I campaign against it.
     
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  18. Calamty Jane

    Calamty Jane Well-Known Member

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    I think the analogy holds for the actual power rather than the perceived power of the factions involved and the fact that the "victims" will be the foot soldiers who bravely snarl and charge.
    I do see some differences though.This is relatively speaking insignificant and a temper tantrum
     
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  19. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    I can't work out who's Maggie and who's Scargill.

    I've got McGregor worked out though, I think.....
     
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  20. Newland Tiger

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    Maybe the pro name change lot should try and outsing the CTWD lot ?

    CTWD is actually about vocally supporting the team as well
     
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