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Allam states his response to request for referendum

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by ...., Nov 20, 2013.

  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    I can't, I don't post people private emails on public forums, when we have anything official from the FA, we'll let everyone know.
     
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  2. TygerTyger

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    So no official response from the FA yet.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

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    Nothing official, at the moment we're just providing them with the information they are requesting and discussing things off the record.
     
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  4. Chazz Rheinhold

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    I've posted this already but no one wants to answer it.
    From the article by David Conn

    Last February, in response to the government's call for firmer governance and an enhanced role for supporters, the FA's chairman, David Bernstein, formally agreed that the FA would give up any influence at all over "club ticket prices, commercial and financial matters, club business and operating issues", and even the distribution of money through the game.

    It was an extraordinary, historic surrender, the FA ceding all responsibility for these key areas to a Premier League whose top clubs are owned by individual billionaires from overseas. This lamentable vacation of the FA's duties could be chalked up as a victory in an administrators' turf war by the Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, but the Premier League would itself benefit from more solid governance.
     
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  5. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Dick Scudamore

    Richard Scudamore on Portsmouth's demise
    "Every club has to be allowed to speculate and only the directors of clubs can assess, ultimately, the risk they are prepared to take if a Premier League club goes into administration then it can only be down to rank bad management. And I stand by that."
    Scudamore identified Fulham's success as an example of why club directors and owners should be allowed a large degree of autonomy.
    "Fulham are a smallish club that has achieved a success beyond anything the Fulham supporters 15 years ago could have imagined. It's unsustainable on its own fan-base and commercial income without that benefactor funding – and I will protect to the nth degree the ability of Mohamed Al Fayed to do what he has done at Fulham."
    He said that Fulham's recent Europa League triumph over Juventus was "as good as any evening English football has ever had" adding: "That is a product of our English football model and it's not one that you have got with an overly regulated, overly bureaucratic, tight-down, centrist, controlled system."
     
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  6. Obadiah

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    The rule about consultation is from the Premier League Rules. Whilst the FA has absolute discretion they must legally take into account the rules of other governing bodies or else they could end up with a legal challenge. Given the current climate of trying to encourage fan participation I'd be surprised if it didn't form part of their considerations.

    All I know for certain is that the FA Council will meet and put their hands up yeah or nay. Its a bit like me flying on a trapeze without a safety net. Nobody knows what will happen next.

    Yes we have had informal contact with the FA, yes we have heard encouraging noises, our material is making some good points, but on the day all bets are off. All CTWD can do is give it our best shot.

    I know some people want certainties, but unfortunately this isn't one of those times. Whatever happens the FA on its 150th anniversary will be asked to make an historic decision for which there is no precedent. Interesting times in deed.
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    It isn't a question.
     
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  8. Obadiah

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    I've answered it. The FA didn't cede responsibility for a change of playing name. Assem Allam has to make an application to the FA not the Premier League. The rule is reprinted in post 361 by watnoash. Its fairly clear it applies to Premier League teams.
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

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    No it's a rubber stamp from the FA to do whatever the premier league tell them to do.
     
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  10. islandtiger

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    Anybody have or anybody know anybody who has a helicopter. If so they could fly over the kc at each home match and with a loud hailer request all those in favour of the name change stand up now---then could do same with keeping the present name. Everyone including the tV companies could see the outcome with no excuses
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    Another use of Hull City Tigers...

    please log in to view this image
     
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  12. tigermaul

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    How about simply adapting the 'Stand Up If You're Hull City' to 'Stand Up To Keep Our Name', followed by 'everywhere we go, everyone will know ...' etc
     
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  13. Obadiah

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    Really, it may well be a way for the FA to tell the Premier League where to go. Will the Premier League (basically the top six clubs) care if the FA tell Hull City they can't become Hull Tigers?
     
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  14. Chazz Rheinhold

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    The FA telling the premier league where to go!!!! Ha funniest post on here since carmine left.
     
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  15. juleskaren

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    I put a letter in the post to him today saying virtually the same thing. I don't want to be thought of as for the name change because I choose to support the team. It would be a good idea for other season pass holders who feel the same as us to do write or email. No way do I want to be used as one of his statistics to say "I told you so they don't mind".
     
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  16. Summerof69

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    I think that is not a bad idea, although I suspect there will be a fair number who still wouldn't stand up either through apathy or fear of upsetting AA and him taking his bat and ball home! It might give him a taste of what the true feelings are though if the vast majority did stand up whilst singing both of those lines alternately.
     
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  17. King Curtis

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    Email sent this evening.

    Dear Dr Allam

    I write with regard to the proposed name change of the football club. I have supported the club for 14 years and have seen us play in all 4 divisions, from Mansfield to Manchester United. The club have achieved many feats during my time as a supporter and they have done so under the name of Hull City AFC. This club has a proud heritage representing the local community and the name has been the one constant in the club's history. It's the name of the club which three generations of my family have felt proud to support, all of who have sadly not lived to see us play in the top division. As you can probably tell, the name of the club has a genuine meaning to myself and also to my family and many fellow supporters I know. I would therefore like to register my disapproval over changing the club's name. However, my view of this decision should not affect my ability to support the team.

    Kind Regards
     
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  18. Fez

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    There will be a judgment, whether it is at the FA, the PL or on Mount Zion is anyone's guess. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  19. Obadiah

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    I know, although it may well be at the KC.
     
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  20. Obadiah

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    They might not have to if Manchester united, Arsenal, Spurs, Manchester City, Liverpool and Everton tell the FA to say no.
     
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