Never got a hiding like that? Eh Fergie?

So if was so easy back then why didnt the 'powerhouses' of Madrid, Bayern our Utd for that matter win it instead of us? It was a very different game back then, teams were made generally up of players from their own countries its not like now where the richest club poach the best players from around the world. Those poor leagues can now longer compete in europe as their best players go to the money men, the best exapmle being Ajax

 

Money has always been in the same leagues. Germany, England, Italy, Spain etc. Bayern Munich won 3 in a row in the 70's as did Ajax. Then after Liverpool won their first trophy 7 out of the 8 years that followed an English team won it. It was the league with the money back then. After that dominance Liverpool got every other English team banned which opened it up for other countries.

 

Indeed but my point is English teams were dominated with British players, foreign players were an exception, are you really trying to tell me that in the 70's and 80's the best pool of players in the world were from Britain? Look at the movement of foreign players over the last 20 years, Italian teams invested big in foreign players to the point were local players were outnumbered, and what happend? They started to domintate Europe, look what happened when Madrid started buying big name foreign players (the wheels did fall off their but im sure you get my point). Look what happened when the Premier League became the big time charlies, players from around the world were flocking to our shores, all of a sudden have 3 temas regually reaching the semi's and beyond (even an all England Final and 3 teams in the last 4). It was much more balanced in terms of quality back then accross Europe

 

Harder to qualify? Yes

Harder to win? No.

Like I said, unless you honestly believe Waterford United are better than Barcelona or the Champions of Luxumberg are better than Juventus etc etc the level of competition now is greater. More of the worlds best teams involved.

In the past -

Liverpool
AC Milan
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich

or

Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea
Real Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia
Bayern Munich, Borrusia Dortmund,
Ac Milan, Inter, Juventus

Not to mention the other teams. Every team in the CL is professional and contains no amateurs unlike some in the European Cup.

As for people asking why didnt teams like Real, Bayern and United win it...............are you being serious? Real Madrid 9 times winners.......they most certainly did win it under the old format. They most certainly found it easier. Bayern also won numerous titles. United were not exactly brilliant in the 70s and 80s and rarely qualified. We did however have a team widely regarded as the best of its time that sadly suffered the Munich air disaster and many people believed we would of won the EC with that team.

 

United19Red

By your own logic you would agree that the Premier League is a much easier league to win now then?

And do me a favour

'Liverpool - 21 Years & Counting

19 - ON OUR ****ING PERCH

How many years was it to get on that perch? Some 106 years I beleive? But i suppose the league was not as professional back then so that doesn't count, it was much easier

 

that was another thing I had mentioned earlier in this thread, clubs can now pick from the world where as then that was not so easy, but no matter what reasoning.

In years from now Mancs will lessen the barca trophies because it was easier then, mancs will say, it was easier when Barca were on top, look who they got in the final in 2009 and 2011

 

Just cannot argue with this. It says it all and that should be the end of it.

 

After taking control of the time space contiuum manc logic says that between the years of 1968-1992 football ceased to exist.

 

The league? Hmmmm There are less sides involved but the level of quality is far above what it used to be. I mean in the old days players would sometimes be pissed the night before a match. If you couldnt stop a player you just kicked him where as now you have to have the ability to stop him. Cheating is different aswell. I mean in the old days cheating involved causing pain, now its faking pain.

So is the league harder? Higher levels yes but with 38-46 games a year no matter what era its going to be a battle.

 

Obviously during the 70's and 80's the money was in the English leagues. But if they were all dominated by British players why were British International teams so poor in that time?

 

United19, remember when I said I did not want to get into the debate due to it just going on and on? How long has this thread been kicking about! Again we are coming for 19, you are gunning for 5, let's see who gets there first....

 

And after regaining control of the time space continuum scouse logic claims football was only fair during 1968-1992.

 

I have to laugh at United supporters clutching at staws, Barca win because they are great, cos they beat United, Liverpool won because it was easier.

Liverpool were that good that it seemed easy and beat teams United would not have found so easy, you are judging these teams easy by the way Liverpool beat them, Liverpool were that good

 

I know, funny that in Liverpool football became defunct around 1991 and has remained so since so since

 

It aint a debate united supporters just try in vein to lessen the achievement, they'll say it was great, but... it was easier ect ect ect, yadda yadda yadda


I keep saying it cant be proved, but they seem to think they have evidence? Their opinion is evidence, that is so manc

 

It's crazy how Man Utd jumped from 12 premier league titles to 19 titles so quickly.

 

So definct infact that we danced all over your team this year even though we've just landed out third manager in a year after a turbulent season start and middle with our best striker going

So definct we got to keep the Champions League Trophy

 

Between 1968-1992 utd won a few trinkets and the coveted 2nd division title.

From 1992 until last season we've been champions of europe and won about 7 other cups of note.

Your record during our years of dominance was piss-poor in those days of easy competitions.

 

Or like real madrids 5 in a row it was partly down to the simple fact it was easier to win as only a small portion of the best teams were involved.

 

Equally insane how liverpool think they are on 18 when clearly football didnt exist between 68 and 92.