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The Allam's tenure

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Craigo, Nov 14, 2013.

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Should the Allams stay or leave the club?

Poll closed Nov 24, 2013.
  1. I want the Allams to stay at the club

    83.5%
  2. I want the Allams to leave the club

    16.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. City1904

    City1904 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with this but what difference does changing the name do? I am all for making him self sufficent but Swansea City and West Bromwich Albion are two prime examples, they still have their names with similar sized stadiums yet they are managing well enough why do we need to try something crazy?

    No-one has actually come up with evidence or research to prove changing the name is a good idea, so we can quite rightly disagree with Assam's decisions on changing the name.

    I would never want him out but appointing someone like Adam Pearson to run the club on his behalf would be a brilliant idea, and no doubt lead to him getting his money back a lot quicker. I know AP won't come back but someone of similar ilk.
     
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  2. TheCasual

    TheCasual Well-Known Member

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    Another thing is would a company risk alienating his current customers when there trying to gain new customers?
     
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  3. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    I guess it depends what kind of customers he's looking for. If he wants to recruit genuine world wide support, people who are actually going to fly over, buy tickets and watch games, then yes, and the whole name change thing just seems ridiculous.

    If he's planning on having club branded merchandise sold overseas just because its nice clothes, in any random clothes shops, to any Tom, Dick and Harry who may not even know the offside rule, then not really, and the rebrand would make a lot more sense.

    And still sound **** and cheesy like some American handegg team.
     
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  4. look_back_in_amber

    look_back_in_amber Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately it would never work, Adam Pearson has great diplomacy skills yet he and AA couldn't work together. I honestly don't think anyone of that kind of calibre could work 'with' him, they could only work 'for' him, which would mean toeing the party line, which would defeat the object of employing them.

    Nice idea but quite badly flawed due to the character of AA.
     
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  5. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    No one knows Allam's logic regarding the name change. It may well be just a lever he thinks might make the Council budge on the KC purchase issue as others have said.

    In reality though it's a very small issue, because he won't have the power to enforce it when he's gone, so ultimately the fans will always have the final decision.

    One big issue with the name change is that many supporters don't like the way this has been forced on them. They feel they have been disenfranchised (which they have) and it's a bitter pill to swallow.
     
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  6. Muffinthegoat

    Muffinthegoat Well-Known Member

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    Someone told me that the tenancy agreements at the KC mean that a sale could be blocked by said tenant. Anyone know if this is true or even legal?
     
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  7. NorthFerribyTiger

    NorthFerribyTiger Well-Known Member

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    As the only tenant is the Allams (SMC) why is that an issue ? Neither Hull City AFC of Hull FC are tenants
     
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  8. Isa Kite

    Isa Kite Active Member

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    Not sure of the point of this poll. Any regular reader of the various name-change threads will have noticed that the most common reaction of the anti-name change posters has been something like "I am grateful to the Allams for their investment in, and running of, the club to date. but...". Most of us are not anti-Allam, just anti name-change. A difference of opinion does not mean you hate someone.

    Of course, as in anything, there is always a tiny, extremist, minority. Possibly a mixture of wums, attention seekers, and just plain fcukwits, :huh:
     
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  9. juleskaren

    juleskaren Well-Known Member

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    Why can't we have success as Hull City or Hull City AFC. It is only in his head that we can be more profitable by a name change. Our whole future does not depend on a name change it depends on how we perform on the pitch and how long we stay in the Premier League. Our nickname is The Tigers and our logo is a Tiger. Surely that is enough to tap into any market he wants to get into in Asia or whatever. Why alienate supporters here many of whom would not buy any merchandise from Hull Tigers.
     
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  10. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you should send him those questions.
     
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  11. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    Are you mellowing a little, Craig?
     
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  12. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    I ****ing hope not!

    This poll has been going a few days now and I suppose the most conspicuous thing for me is that some of the people who have been most vociferous in their criticism of Allam haven't actually voted for him to leave.

    With the poll choices being so straightforward (and purposely not linked to the name change issue) I would have thought everyone would have enough knowledge of the man now to decide whether they want him to stay or not.

    Is it because some posters are worried about openly committing their support for a minority view?
     
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  13. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    Weren't they the ones that pressurised Barmby into becoming manager in the first place?

    After NP left, Barmby was caretaker and many weeks passed before he accepted the role. We'll never know the motives for this long period of indecision. I suspect (but have no proof whatsoever) that budgets and resources might have had something to do with it. The same applies to NP's departure.

    I well remember NP getting asked on The FL Show, after we'd beaten Lesster at the KC, if he thought NB should accept the manager's role, and NP doing his damndest not to say what he really thought........

    The way we are currently managed off the pitch is a shambles.

    Relationship with council: cold/non existent

    Relationship with Adidas: cold and hostile

    Relationship with fans: terrible. Little communication and few interviews, and when they are forthcoming, appear confused, contradictory, angry and autocratic. All forums and phone ins are full of squabbling, arguing, anger, division, when the support should be united and focussing on trying to keep us up. This should be one of the greatest seasons in 109 years, yet it's been scarred by this petty spiteful spat with the council which drags on and on. The owners don't seem to care less about any of this, and get stubbornly defensive when questioned.

    Marketing: the club seem to make no effort in appealing to non sponsors or the ordinary people of Hull. The club shop is shocking.The local eggchasing clubs beat us hands down in courting medium and small sized local businesses, and avoid appearing aloof.

    Promotion 'celebration party' @the KC: I never thought I'd see the day when promotion to the top tier of English football was such a joyless affair celebrated by a few thousand souls in 3/4 empty stadium. Colossal balls up, ham-fisted, spiteful, up yours gesture to the city as well as the council.

    We had thousands more outside the Guildhall when we got out of League 2, and half the city on the streets when we went up in 2008.

    You'll forgive me if I don't agree with you in thinking they've hardly put a foot wrong........

    Bungling PR after spiteful mess after off-hand attitude.
     
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  14. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    So why haven't you voted for them to go?
     
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  15. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    Why should I, ffs?

    It's a moronic poll 'question'.

    I'm surprised anyone bothered answering it.
     
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  16. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    Over a hundred people have the balls to commit themselves to an opinion, why not you?
     
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  17. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    Do you have short term memory loss or something?
     
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  18. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    Answer the question.
     
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  19. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    The clue is in response number 95.......
     
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  20. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    And in #93 you gave a catalogue of reasons why you think the Allams are ****, yet you won't commit yourself to saying you want them to leave. Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?
     
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