You're coming across rather smug and condescending Leon. I live not far from the KC .You say it was well advertised?? Really? Yet no one used it and I have stated on here many times how much i use the local library. But an offer was made "give it to me for nothing" in TG's words. Thats an offer. Disregard Allam in this. All businessmen want summat for nowt. What is Tg and the Council doing to develop that land? Nothing. He likes the Fair on it. Even before te meeting he was quoted as saying the Fair wont move
My response would be the same as it is now: explain to me the financial benefits and the market research that determines such action, and why a change of name is necessary over and above any other commercial decision.
I would rather my voice in the Council had at least been seen to look at other alternatives. If the stadium's not for sale, and if it seemed the investment hinged on acquiring something as security the Council own many assets, not just in Hull, that could have been looked at to broker the deal. I seem to recall Costello being one such offer, but I think it was dismissed as a stadium site, so hardly appropriate for a larger development.
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Spor...stadium-sale/story-13417465-detail/story.html There had been a number of meetings between Mr Allam and council officials during the summer to discuss the plans. Mr Geraghty, portfolio holder for leisure and culture, told the Mail the council must protect the interests of all the people who use the stadium and enjoy Hull Fair every year. He said: "We wanted to clear the air and explain that we have no intention of getting rid of the KC Stadium or the fairground. "We believe the land is traditionally for the fair and there is no other place we can put it. "It draws in a million people each year. "We want to safeguard the other people who use the KC Stadium." The news comes despite claims by council leader Steve Brady that any decision over the potential sale of the stadium would be down to a public referendum. Mr Brady previously told the Mail: "This is such an important decision that the administration needs to rely on the people of Hull to do this." Mr Geraghty confirmed this would no longer go ahead. It was never for sale according to TG but Brady pretends he may hold a referendum on it!! Old Labour playing petty party politics pretending tey were interested but scared ****less of big business in reality.
Not trying to condescend anyone, nor sound smug: just trying to discuss this situation. Yes, it was as well plugged as libraries generally are. I’m not talking about some sort of snazzy or elaborate publicity campaign but it was referenced in promotional council literature coming through your door (if you read it) and in other local services: schools, children’s centres, medical centres etc. I also know they held different events to bring people in: such as workshops for children/families, job events etc. I’d rarely consider a library per se as a waste of time or money. Although, in the stadiums case perhaps (in hindsight) it wasn’t the best location. I also agree with your (and others’ sentiment that something needs to be done with that land. But I can’t disregard Allam in this as you say as he was the instigator and is also the one who seems to have closed the door on negotiations with HCC – which he then is using to justify the name change.
Why are you just trying to score points. It was never for sale FACT. For the record i detest all political parties. Hope this helps
Sorry mate, just typing FACT after assertions makes you look like a ****. Also, is it a fact? On one hand, you factually believe TG words one minute as fact, then disbelieve it the next? Which is it? "For the record i detest all political parties. Hope this helps" No, this helps no one. Just allows the **** to continue. Why not do something about the things you dislike?
When Gerraghty said the Stadium's not for sale, was he in any position to give his words authority, or was that just his tongue flapping in the wind? I think the other factor for TG, is the potential sale of the KC had/has implications for FC and beyond, so I suspect he was more viewing it from their perspective than from ours as football fans.
Indeed. An important question. Perhaps he was internally rebuked for saying this? It's certainly difficult to say that from what TG said, that factually, the stadium was not for sale. I'm all for criticising HCC when it's due - but the 'all politicians are ****/HCC haven't done this/that' without a shred of evidence just makes people sound like some thick **** down the pub. Unlike AA, I like evidence.
Those that know beyond the papers will be unwilling or unable to voice their knowledge on a message board.
Then I would be the same as I am now, broad support for what he wants to do for Hull City but against the name change, as I cannot see any financial benefits for change.
A good question but firstly, we don't have foreign ownership. Assem Allams money comes from this country. However, your point is a good one. The answer is difficult, as most at the time would possibly have rather the club go into administration. For some reason Assem Allam is not trusted by many in Hull, his charitable gifts are always viewed with scepticism. Personally it is not a view I share, but that is the way he is seen. Personal wealth and presents does not buy you respect in Hull. To be honest, at the time of purchase, he stated that he would gift the club to the people of Hull, but as the debts started to be found and the true position of the clubs finances unraveled, this objective was lost. As time has gone by, the mood has changed from saviour to owner. The club that was bought as a gift to the people of Hull is now Assem Allams, to do what he pleases with. It's hard not to feel confused and easy to see why some are bitter. It's not a situation that anyone will win.
