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  1. Proud Fox

    Proud Fox Well-Known Member

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    10 wins out of 15 in the League and 4 wins out of 4 in the cup- Superb form <ok>

    Most games have been tight but were still winning them

    1 game changes very little. Both Burnley and QPR dropped points with Forest the only team in the top 7 to win. Perspective
     
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  2. AKCJ

    AKCJ Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    But this won't last if we don't take chances.


    If we're giving up one or two chances a game and still conceding then we've got a serious problem.

    Especially when we're getting 10 chances a game and not taking any.



    The strikers need to start scoring (Nugent, i'm looking at you) because our defence isn't tight enough at the moment.

    Results have covered it up, but we desperately need a striker and a winger. We're toothless in attack.
     
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  3. Proud Fox

    Proud Fox Well-Known Member

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    For me we losing the midfield battle too much. Drinkwater has been superb recently and cover King's arse at times

    Matty James has to start at Ipswich

    Yes Nugent is clinical in front of goal but there rare in this league. Andy King is probably our most clinical player
     
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  4. jambawamba

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    Yes and they beat us FFS! As soon as we took of our wide players we were ****e
     
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  5. AKCJ

    AKCJ Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I assume you meant that he isn't clinical.

    And I can tell you that they are not rare in this league. Could probably name 30 strikers who are better in front of goal.

    Usually Nugents all round play makes up for his poor finishing, but recently he's been really off.



    Wood and Vardy against Ipswich and beyond please.
     
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  6. Proud Fox

    Proud Fox Well-Known Member

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    They are rare. Jordan Rhodes aside I dont think there is one in this league now
     
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  7. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    Danny Ings, Charlie Austin, Adam le Fondre ... and our 'form' is NOT superbif it was we would have been killing teams off ... the results, on the other hand, have been very good ...
     
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  8. Proud Fox

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    Before this season none of us knew much about Ings at all. He has been superb this season but other then that he has never made an impression so its too early to say he is.

    Charlie Austin started last season very well but tailed off, he has only scored 6 goals in a QPR side that creates alot of chances. I have seen him miss alot of chances this season so by no means is he clinical

    Adam Le Fondre is a player I rate but you have to wonder why he doesnt start many games considering how many goals he gets. Is he nothing more then a supersub?

    Im not defending Nugent but to say yesterday was his fault is very short sighted and people just looking for a scapegoat. I would much rather Nugent playing for us then someone else.

    All players have faults and all have off days and bad spells of form. Victimising players achieves nothing
     
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  9. I used to be john fallen

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    By definition.... if our strikers were lethal and had the capability to bang in goals for fun, they wouldn't be with us, they would be snapped up by the top premier clubs.. its just a fact of life of the division we are in..the players are just not top drawer Im afraid,..its frustrating but that's the way it is..,<ok>
     
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  10. Proud Fox

    Proud Fox Well-Known Member

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    Spot on.

    If Lloyd Dyer had an end product he wouldnt be playing for us. Players are in the 2nd division for a reason.

    Some of the players with develop into Premier League players and some wont. Other are Premier League class but are in this division

    You have to accept players have faults
     
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  11. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    'Victimising' ... you know what I said about exaggeration? ... if a player is not doing his job (and Nugent is a striker I understand) then you drop him for someone that might do that job ... that is not victimisation, just the reality of earning a living in any occupation ... but particularly as a sportsman in a team game ...
     
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  12. Proud Fox

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    Right to be fair to Nugent a minute regardless of how he has scored he is our top scorer

    As good as Jamie Vardy has been he only has 4 goals and other then getting the ball smashed into his face Chris Wood has done very little in the League. Jeff Schlupp has yet to prove that he is good enough to be a striker in this league.

    While I think Wood and Vardy should start up front at Ipswich its not like anyone has really rivalled Nugent for his place. He missed a penalty but so what, better player have missed before. His conversion rate is still very good and taken on the responsibility to ease some of the pressure on the younger players. Aslong as each player steps up and give their all I will support them throughout.

    Our players have faults and thats why there playing for Leicester City and not Barcelona.


    On the victimisation thing FF you have always had it in for Nugent. You have your favourites and anyone outside of them gets alot of stick from you.

    As I have seen many times and you have seen many more, players have good spells and bad spells of form. Strikers are paid to stick the ball in the net and Nugent has done well for our club since he signed on that front. While their is better players out there but remember the grass isnt always greener on the other side. Everyone used to give Matty Fryatt alot of stick but he still put the ball in the back of the net for us. For some reason our fans always need a scapegoat
     
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  13. FosseFilberto

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    His conversion rate for a striker has never been 'very good' - it has always been distinctly average ... hence him never being an EPL first choice striker ... Vardy has scored more from open play this season (as has Lloyd Dyer) ...

    I don't 'have it in for Nugent' ... I judge him, as I do all footballers, on ability, unfortunately for him, that has to be predominantly as a striker - which is his job.
     
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  14. Proud Fox

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    I was on about Nugent's conversion rate from the spot. 7 goals from 8 penos isnt bad

    Nugent has 40 goals for us now in 2 and 1/3 seasons here. When was the last time a striker did that for us?

    I personally find it quite funny that were 2nd in the league and some fans (not meaning anyone in particular) want to tear our team to shreds for 1 game and cast the players as ****.

    Nugent has started pretty much every game in a team that has won 14 out of 19 games this season so he cant be doing too bad. People are quite happy to realise Vardy's contribution to the team when he wasnt scoring but not Nugent. Aslong as the team wins I couldnt really care on how well Nugent or anyone else is playing. Nigel will make the decision when he think Nugent needs to be dropped/rotated.

    As I said alot at the back end of last season and been proved right now. Nigel knows what he is doing <ok>
     
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  15. I used to be john fallen

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    Well here's my two pence worth on the match ... I thought we went about things all wrong, the attitude was "we are gonna sweep forest aside , just watch".. that had infected the players outlook for me..I think pearson should guarded against that, but failed to do so, I would of set up not to lose and hold what we had..we played right into billys hands IMHO..if we had packed the midfield and stood off them,that would of fooked forest right up..they just knew how we were going to play and had all week to prep for it,..james and hammond should of held in front of the back four..and we should of played one lone striker...this is not hindsight on my behalf.. I had a bad feeling reading some of gung ho stuff from our fans...sadly it came true..<ok>
     
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  16. FosseFilberto

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    ... remember the exaggeration point? ... I hardly think that the potential benching of a patently misfiring striker (which was the subject of the initial post) is 'tearing the team to shreds' but that's the beauty of diverse opinion ...
     
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  17. AKCJ

    AKCJ Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Bit of an exaggeration.

    Nugent has been poor all season and deserves to be dropped.

    A more clinical striker would have scored 3/4 based on his chances. He needs to know he's droppable. He's not had a good game since January now.
     
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  18. FosseFilberto

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    ... just out of interest ... do you think Pellegrini has 'victimised' Joe Hart by benching him? ... I see that making a team choice where a player is underperforming and that under performance is actually costing the team points.

    Now if you don't think a misfiring striker is costing a team points, then that's your opinion; perhaps naïve but still your opinion ... but the knock on effect is that it adds far more pressure on the defence, because if they make a rick (as against Forest) they know it could cost the game because of that inability to score at the other end ...
     
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  19. LeicesterWizard

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    Everything you said made sense up until this point, replacing Nuge for Schlupp will be no different.

    The late nights Nuge must be having with his new baby must be effecting him, i agree that its time to give Wood a chance after some fairly decent sub appearances, but for me when Wood starts games, he doesn't look at all bothered to battle for the ball or win the long ball from Kasper.

    At least Nuge will give defenders a challenge to get rid the ball without too much time to think about it.
     
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  20. FosseFilberto

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    Wizard - that is grasping at straws buddy <laugh> ... for one, these are highly tuned atheletes whose only real 'shift' is the one or two games of football they play each week! ... you cant' compare him to some poor bugger that works 9 to 5 in a two up two down semi in New Parks - on the money that Nuge is on I'm sure he has more than one spare room to get some kip ... and unless times have changed since my 3 ... his missus has probably got the feeding aparatus handy ... and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they don't also have a 'nanny' ...

    On Jeff Schlupp - he has a phenomenal scoring record at each level he has played ... and if you remember back to last season he scored a clutch (from open play) on his return from his Man United experience ... the first from left back away at Derby... his reintroduction had a distinct impact on baling out our season.
     
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