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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by Cruyff's Turn, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. Rich44

    Rich44 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah far more important things in life than football and even politics, we're all the same at the end of the day we need to have each other's backs

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  2. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    things turned a little racist as i recall. certainly upset me anyway
     
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  3. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    Absolutely not, but perhaps a private message outlining that you are unhappy with repeated attempts to sabotage reasonable debate might stop some of the more divisive comments. I agree that ultimately it's the posters responsibility.[/QUOTE]

    absolute bull ****, sorry, but it is
     
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  4. Swedish Dave

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    Actually I considered this subject but left my thoughts out because I knew it would be contentious and would detract from whether we are more negative. I personally don't think it is so clear cut. On the ball incidents are seen in much more detail on TV. Of that there can surely be no doubt? In terms of understanding movement off the ball, yes, you are probably right, but I think it is a more complicated equation than 20 years ago. The whole viewing experience has shifted towards bigger, higher definition screens. There are multiple cameras. People luckier than me may even be able to choose the camera, or to have 2 camera angles simultaneously. What better way to follow the off the ball movement of RVW than to have a dedicated camera on him? I'm not too proud to admit that the expert analysis on TV can be insightful, perhaps more so than the old codger in front of me shouting "Get it forward" every time we get the ball. I've got pause, rewind etc. By the time most Carrow Road attendees have settled down to MOTD to find that a particular incident isn't included in the minute long segment, the full game will often have already been broadcast twice here.

    I will always go to a game when I have the option. I go for the atmosphere and I will certainly see and hear a ton of stuff that I won't get from TV. Do I come away with a more valid opinion of the game? Well I probably like to think I do but what I gain in some areas, I probably lose in others. It depends a lot on circumstances. Someone watching a dodgy stream on their mobile is going to have a very different experience.
     
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  5. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    let me just make one thing clear, i did not make out that anybody who can't get to games is a 'plastic'. if anything, you're more likely to get 'plastics' inside the ground, people who most of the time support one of the big boys like liverpool or whoever, but now their 'local' team have been promoted want to watch them.

    my point was that you see the whole picture and appreciate different atmospheres better when you are inside a stadium rather than watching on tv. i really don't think anybody can disagree with that.

    on a similar note, we do seem to win a lot of evening games (5.30 being as late as they come these days in the premier league) - atmosphere is always better under the lights. so if sky/bt are reading this, please can we play all our games at 5.30!!!
     
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  6. Home on the range canary

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  7. Cruyff's Turn

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    ..that was deliberate.It's called irony.
     
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  8. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    I'm too stupid to understand that
     
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  9. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    Now you are at it too.Good isn't it?
     
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  10. Swedish Dave

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    Yup I fully accept that you didn't say that. I was only questioning the suggestion that someone that doesn't go to the games regularly is more negative. If true, it is actually a very interesting observation. If it is not true, then it was perhaps unfair to draw attention to Mexican's remoteness, the inference being that his opinions are affected because of it. For me it was unfortunate that you added that line to a post that I would otherwise have agreed with entirely.

    As a remote poster myself, I am probably unduly sensitive of any suggestion that it affects my status as a supporter.

    Mexican probably lives in Yarmouth anyway :D
     
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  11. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    i certainly wasn't trying to be rude to anyone who is unable to go to games, or anyone who is for that matter, it was a genuine inquiry! there may very well be no substance in it but it was based on the overall feel inside games this season, where undoubtedly the vast majority of people are fully behind the manager. you'd probably never know it when you read message boards though, and my inclination is that many who write on message boards are unable to attend games and this is one way to get 'their fix'. i think it was a fair suggestion based on a gut feeling
     
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  12. Swedish Dave

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    Well as a pro-Hughton supporter I've sat at home frustrated at the negativity of supporters in the stadium. I thought I was hearing boos at half time, chants of "you don't know what you're doing", booing substitutions etc. and my own perception was that the stadium was actually the centre of a lot of unnecessary negativity but clearly anyone attending is better placed to judge the atmosphere. If the vast majority of people at Carrow Road are fully behind the manager than I'm all the happier for it <ok>
     
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  13. Fenland Canary

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    It's all a bit childish really, grow up everyone.
     
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  14. General Melchett

    General Melchett Well-Known Member

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    I'd completely agree with that, but would also add that in this day and age with sky or other sources, a number of regular CR attendees will not just watch the game live, but will have the oportunity and benefit of being able to see 60 minutes of highlights on sky also to supplement anything they might of missed at the game.

    Bah!
     
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  15. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    as indeed i like to do sometimes. a bit sad isn't it <laugh>
     
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  16. General Melchett

    General Melchett Well-Known Member

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    I'd call it passionate (In no way obsessive!):grin:

    bah!
     
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