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Everton's manager has suggested that teams should get an extra sub if a player has to go off with concussion. How is that different from a player having to go off with a broken leg for instance? You could still have to go down to 10 men if you'd used your subs already. Don't know what he's going on about.

I like Martinez, he's a good manager but he's make himself look like a massive idiot there.

Yes, unless I'm missing a fair bit of info, he hasn't quite thought that one through.
 
Yes, unless I'm missing a fair bit of info, he hasn't quite thought that one through.

It makes sense to me. You can diagnose a broken leg, harder to tell if a player has a concussion or the severity of it. At worst, a player hurts his leg, comes back and finds it is painful to run on and he can't play. With a concussion the player is dazed and not aware of how out of it or slowed his reactions might be. There is also some medical research suggesting that one concussion makes you extremely susceptible to another one, and multiple concussions in a short period of time might cause permanent brain damage.

The absolute worst that can happen to you with a knee or ankle injury is maybe you need to get a replacement when you are older. And I'm sure there are plenty of footballers whose joints ache terribly. But that's still not as bad as being reduced to a punch drunk.

If you follow American football, this is a real epidemic. Players would take a hit, see stars, the coach would give them some smelling salts and they'd feel like they could play. Then later they interview veteran players and they will say that they played multiple times after such incidents and don't remember anything from that game. They retire, and by the time they are 40 they start having all sorts of memory issues as well as emotional problems.

The number of pro wrestlers and NFL players who have in recent years committed suicide (or murder/suicide) or been reduced to shells of their former selves is quite concerning.

So I think that allowing for a sub because of a concussion reduces the incentive for player and manage to try and play through what might actually be a serious injury (or could become one). I don't know how they would prevent players from faking concussions or whatever, so it has some problems in practice. But it's an idea that to me is worth thinking about.
 
I agree with all your points except I feel the answer should be independent medical assessment, which would have the final say on whether or not a player can continue, not an extra substitute.

I think you'd just get players feigning head injuries in order to get an extra sub for their team.
 
I agree with all your points except I feel the answer should be independent medical assessment, which would have the final say on whether or not a player can continue, not an extra substitute.

I think you'd just get players feigning head injuries in order to get an extra sub for their team.

I agree. Concussion should be deemed as a bad injury where you can't play on. I would make two rule changes to take account of this. 1] After a head injury [and certainly after being knocked out] the player is assessed, and if considered by the medic to be anywhere near concussed then he is replaced, or not if the team has run out of subs. But he leaves the pitch for that game. 2] There would be no leeway. 7 subs, of which 1 must be a goalkeeper. There would be no chance taking by managers.

Yes, that might lead to the odd outfield player being registered as a recognised goalkeeper, but so what..?
 
West Ham off the bar...if they gave 0.1 of a goal for those, this one would be done and dusted.
 
1-0 Hammers

THIS IS DAVID VS. GOLIATH STUFF

WHERE DAVID IS EITHER TEAM AND GOLIATH IS THE GOAL LINE OR SOMETHING
 
I kind of feel for Hughton, in so much as, he seems to have lost the ability to motivate his players, but at the same time, the players don't even look like they can be arsed to play for the Norwich City supporters either.
 
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