And you saw all this with your own two eyes? You also heard the guy clearly Identfy himself as a Police Officer? Is that what you are telling me?
A SUPPORTER who saw the Dam Square clashes said some of the most shocking violence was committed by a plain-clothes policeman. John Doyle, 44, claimed to have seen the officer attacking Celtic fans. He added: “I was watching him go for the fans and I wasn’t sure if he was a hooligan or if he was police. “He was the Beast of Dam Square, involved in all that was going on. He was no more than a thug.” Video footage showed the officer, dressed in a beige jacket, charging into the square with his plain-clothes colleagues and attacking Celtic fans. He is seen beating a supporter, before turning and running as other fans confront him. The officer, failing to look where he is going, crashes into a lamp-post and tumbles to the ground. He is surrounded and beaten on the ground by angry supporters before his colleagues move in and rescue him.
Yes Div I did see it with my own eyes . It was on that video that you so vehemently refused to watch . Funnily enough it also mentioned in todays Record ...........he is surrounded and beaten on the ground by angry suppirters . As for him identifying himself as I police officer . Nope can't say I heard him do that . Does me or anybody else not hearing him say it make him any less a police officer ?
I'll make it easy for you Aldi, to avoid any more pointless whitabootery. Which of these scenarios is most likely In Amsterdam? A: The Celtic Fans were solely to blame for all the trouble B: The Police and Ajax fans (and others) Were solely to blame C: The blame should be shared because all sides were at fault to some extent I'll go for C.
Eric, from what I've seen there is clear evidence of Celtic fans chucking bottles and beating up that plain clothes cop. I have no doubt that some of them were there looking for trouble and they got it, others who did not go looking for a ruck unfortunately also got it. You would not have got me in Amsterdam for a pension after the events at Parkhead.
I agree. When things kick off rational thinking goes out the window. Coppers will wade in, and wade in hard, to restore order. I would stop short of apportioning too much blame to the cops for that. In my view if ye partake in public disorder expect to get walloped and don't be greetin about it afterwards.
Aldi likes his videos Gambol, one of the videos I have seen shows the same copper who ran into the lamp post knocking **** out of a Celtic fan using his feet and his knees. A report on Eurosport also says the Plain clothes cops were no better than the Ajax casuals, from what I have seen (albeit I was not there) both sides were at fault and I have no doubt that (as is usually the case) some wholly innocent people got picked on by Cops. The spokesman for the Amserdam cops admits openly that his men use violence, you would have to question the culpabilty of any police force who use the same tactics as the people they are arresting. Imagine we had footage of a Police Scotland copper laying into a football fan? There would be an outcry, the only reason there is no outcry is that the Dutch have already decided that Celtic fans were solely to blame and are going to ignore anything which shows their version of events is far from the truth. It's not as if this is new in Amsterdam, plenty of opposing fans have been attacked there and that's why I would have gone nowhere near it. That's not to say that any fan who did go there deserved what he got.
I repeat, if ye partake in public disorder expect a walloping from the authorities. Don't be greetin about it afterwards. Just don't do it in the first place.
We have been around the world with not a bit of bother apart from when we play Ajax. It is obvious who is at fault here and UEFA should take action.
