I've posted my views on this several times but it really is ridiculous to say that about the Brady challenge. If you hadn't had two men sent off already and were looking for something to moan about, that tackle wouldn't have even been talked about after the game. It was the most standard yellow card tackle you'll see. He caught Johnson late, but his legs were completely apart and he just took Johnson down with momentum rather than a direct concentrated force to the leg. That is how players get injured and that's why Cattermole got sent off, because he did exactly what refs are clamping down on in applying a huge force into Elmo's ankle. It's how legs get broken even if it wasn't malicious like the Dossena one. The Brady one was just a basic foul, absolutely 0 danger to Johnson whatsoever. Elmo wasn't ****ing about. He really was hurt by it. Anyone at the game could see that from his reaction but also his track record. He's a soft **** in the challenge but he isn't one to go milking it. He's always the type to just get up and get on with it. Completely agree with Paul Jewitt's analysis above. Brady brought Johnson down from the side, he didn't fly into the front of his leg with studs. I ****ing hate players slide tackling from the front like that, it's so dangerous and leads to so many injuries and it's just down to a lack of skill really. You don't see it as much in countries like Spain and Italy where they are more clever and rely on interceptions and skillful, standing challenges rather than just flying in every time the ball appears slightly loose.
100% agree with the observation about McShane on Beverley Westwood, the ball was there to go for. 50/50 and Westwood can use his hands to catch / punch if he wanted to. As for the Brady / Cattermole comparison. Johnson was lucky, very lucky Brady didn't connect. If he had Johnson would have had more reason to roll about like a pansy. I'm not sure how you can defend Brady. A, what, 12 stone(??) jumping at someone in the way he did would have put him out of the game for same time.
Good job there wasn't direct concentrated force to Johnsons legs then. Agreed he rolled around like a big puff, but Brady couldn't control what he did, it was dangerous and reckless and he should have been off. 0 danger to Johnson? Righto. I take it you weren't at the game then, because anyone that was saw Elmo get up fairly sharpish and play on. Meyler on the other hand was clearly in pain 1) the length of time he stayed down 2) as he got up he limped off 3) has no history of, shall we say, going over easily like Elmo.
Bumping into someone isn't dangerous. Rugby players bump into each other as a matter of course and only really suffer injuries when there are complications such as bits getting twisted or crushed and stuff. The danger, in football in particular, is with the legs. If you slide in hard from the front and all that force is concentrated to the front of someone's leg which only bends one way it's going to be dangerous. Brady didn't do that, neither of his legs hit Johnson with force as they were spread. If anything it was a bit of a gonad-first challenge. As for Elmo, the physio came on to check on Elmo and then called for a stretcher, which thankfully wasn't needed. In England you don't see the stretcher come out unless there's some real concern. He was also off the pitch for a while before going back on too. If you think Elmo goes over easily but Meyler doesn't then **** knows what you've been watching. Meyler is stronger in the tackle and braver but he's the worst in our team for 'winning' free kicks and such.
Brady straight red no question. He came on with his fancy tricks head on, gave the ball away a couple of times and tried to redeem himself with a **** challenge. Should have gone. Suarez does that exact same challenge against us in a couple of weeks we'd all go mental even without much contact. Aye and book Johnson for rolling about like that anarl
Brady challenge wasn't even a yellow. Johnson should have been booked for diving. Clattermole challenge was studs first into Elmos ankle - straight red. It's clear on the match of the day highlights where it's shown from an angle which strangely is not used on any other highlight reel. McShane 'challenge' is a non starter. If anything their goalie should have been sent off, McShane was already running in full pelt and would have had the goal scoring opportunity had Westwood not jumped in front of him at the last and poleaxed him good and proper. If any player other than the keeper did that it would have been a straight red card and a penalty.
People keep saying straight red for Brady but can't explain why. What did he do that was red card worthy I just don't get it? If you're sending someone for a single challenge on the basis of it being serious foul play it surely needs to be dangerous? Studs up or high contact (or both) are the usual signs signs of tackles like that. I don't particularly blame Johnson for going down I just really don't think that challenge deserves the fuss it's getting and I'm convinced it's only because there were other red cards in the game.
He left the ground and was therefore completely out of control of his body. In my view, if the referee had been consistent he should have sent Brady off as well.
But why is that dangerous? Is it dangerous every time a player jumps and leaves the ground? If he leaves the ground tackling and did it feet first I would agree because that would generate the kind of force that results in injury but someone bumping into you doesn't cause injuries even if they did leave the ground on the way.
RED. Went for the man with full intent RED. Went for the man with full intent YELLOW. Went for the ball with no intent
This ^ I'm just as confused at how many think Brady deserved a red. He actually knows exactly what he's in danger of doing, so he pulls his boots out.
Perfect pictures them. Where is Elmo's leg gonna go in that second pic? He was lucky that he went up in the air cos if not you can see it's fully extended and a bit more force without his leg budging would break it. Third one shows Brady's legs spread wide. I'm telling you it was a bollock tackle, probably endangered his own testicles more than anyone else.
Why do you lose all control of your body if you leave the ground? If that's the case you'd be sent off every time you jumped for a header.
In terms of a sliding tackle, which is what we are talking about here, being completely off the ground means that the momentum acting on the first thing the body makes contact with will be many times greater than if the whole of the body did not leave the ground. Also there is no way the body can adapt at the last moment to any outside environmental changes, like the altering position of the player you are trying to tackle or the positioning of the ball. If one foot remains in contact with the ground there is a chance that the body can adapt instinctively at the last minute to the changing environment by being able to push off against the ground to change the body's movement direction or aspect.
It's pointless showing still frame pictures. They firstly, don't tell the whole story and secondly they aren't what the referee at the time will be able to see. Moving pictures aren't even what the referee can see, but at least they tell more of the story. For example, that Brady picture shows his foot on the ground, but in actual fact he had already jumped to get into that position with both feet off the ground.
