City Till We Die has been made aware of comments made by Managing Director Nick Thompson in an interview published on the iSportconnect website on Friday 1 November. You can read the full piece here: http://bit.ly/NickThom During the course of the interview Mr Thompson states, âthe fans who are campaigning to retain the letters AFC in the official business name actually donât use it to describe themselves. It is about keeping the key elements that are important to the identity and the essence of the brand. Two brackets, an AFC and the word Limited are not essential.â This is inaccurate. The clubâs business name (changed from âHull City Association Football Club (Tigers) Limitedâ to âHull City Tigers Ltdâ in March 2013) is not the focus of the No To Hull Tigers campaign. Our only interest in the new business name is the degree to which its increasingly widespread use outside of a business context causes confusion. City Till We Die is opposed to changing the playing name of the football club to Hull Tigers or Hull City Tigers - unless a majority of supporters vote in favour of doing so. We will campaign forcefully for a no vote in any such fan referendum. We are disappointed by Mr Thompsonâs misrepresentation of our views, disagree strongly with his assertion that only 5% are opposed to a name change, and reject his negative stereotyping of supporters of the campaign. Mr Thompson will be leaving the club in December. City Till We Die will be asking to meet with his successor at the earliest opportunity to make our aims clear. CITY TILL WE DIE http://notohulltigers.tumblr.com/post/66286483569/response-to-nick-thompson-interview
Don't you ****ing dare start that argument again... More than those who signed a 'yes to name change petition'. Which was around 0.
Sobering reading but just because you don't like what he says doesn't mean it is without truth. I've never understood why anyone wants to do away with 'AFC' -it's historically accurate and part of our full registered name. It's harmless and not used because Hull City is more than enough to identify us in most contexts. Removing it removes a part of our history- a bit like Martin Fish flogging the railway nameplate and replacing it with a snide lookilikee. No one died but it was an epic fail on his part as custodian of our club, Considering that we have some so-called fans know us as 'Hull' OR 'HCAFC' , clearly the name or initials or NOT such an issue for the 'attached', or even the 'hooked'. He's right there. People reading that article need to understand the context of that interview: which was, 'branding/rebranding' in the football world, and Thompson was explaining it in that context, using a marketing frame. Hull City- a club AND a brand. It's 2013 and we're in the Premier League.
Why do you dislike HCAFC? I’ve seen others refer to City as HCFC also and I’ve always assumed there’s a clear reference point; more than likely referring to something before my time (unless I've missed something glaringly obvious?) Any chance you could explain?
That actually made my laugh to the extent other people would have considered it to be audible. Cheers.
Aggers will be along soon. This could go on for hours he'll drag in superior fans(he's the king of that pile). In the know, through the pain. torkey. yadda yadda yadda Glad I'm off to pub.
Usually, most of what Mr Blampey says makes sense, but when it comes to referring to us by our correct name of HCAFC he can be a real ****ing oddball.
Thanks for that Leon. Let's roll back the years and go back in time to an earlier era the mid 70s to be precise. Football supporters started to refer to the club in initials form- MUFC, LUFC, BWFC, SWFC, EFC, NUFC and so on. In Hull we were referred to as HCFC. Long before the internet and Chris Elton, most people had little or no knowledge of our history, so the AFC bit that forms part of our official title wasn't really taken into consideration back then. Sunderland were SAFC but I seem to remember them having SFC on their shirts on the late 60s before such things became more dogmatic. So for a a whole generation of fans, HCFC was used on school desks, denim jackets, bus shelters, railway bridges, union jacks etc The 'HCAFC' appellation seems only to have entered into usage in the late 90s and after......usually from the lips or computers of folk who hadn't done the hard yards. Times change. People change. We embrace diversity. But we respect tradition and custom, and cast them aside at our peril. Thank you so much for asking.
Touched a nerve? The name change clearly hasn't incensed that many people if only 4500 have signed the petition (I have by the way) when you take into account 1) the amount of home supporters at home games 2) the amount of City supporters who cant make games for whatever reason. It's a small percentage. Adding to which, out of those 4500, even if the name change still goes ahead I'm sure they will continue turning up and supporting their team (rightly so). So AA hasn't really got anything to lose whether we the fans like it or not.
Well, thanks for such a full response - genuinely interesting - thought it must have been something pre (my) birth. Wonder what the generation before thinks of it? Did they perhaps think that a new generation had come along and bastardised their name? Also, back to the present, maybe a counter CTWD movement could press AA to 'rub out' the A in AFC if CTWD manage to keep AFC? 'the hard yards' - I like it.
I think it's quite naive of you to assume that every attendee at home games: 1) have access to the internet 2) know about the petition. The sheer volume of people picking up a badge and a leaflet when offered the choice of one shows that a lot more people care than you would seem to think.
I think its quite naive to assume only 4500 city fans have internet access!! It's easy to take a badge or leaflet when it's handed to you on your way to the stadium. It takes some level of effort to sign the petition.
"One of the ironies is that the fans who are campaigning to retain the letters AFC in the official business name, actually don’t use it to describe themselves. It is about keeping the key elements that are important to the identity and the essence of the brand. Two brackets an AFC and the word Limited are not essential." Please do me a favour and read this. It makes it clear that this is not about the business name. Not the team name.
There always has been and -inshallah- always will be a place for Hull City AFC Ltd in our nomenclature. It's our full formal business officvial name- what's not to like or keep? But HCAFC for me is a mere modern variant of HCFC- technically permissible but not really part of the lingua franca of club's demotic in the 20th century. Add Tiger Nation to that list. A rather self-mocking name used at a time when we were a comatose giant and forced to break bread with the journeymen of the football league's lower orders. I've never heard anyone speak those words or use them without some sort of subliminal sarky titter. Acceptable I suppose but it does carry baggage.
I'd love to know where I claimed only 4500 have internet access. Anyway, we could go tit for tat all night. I was simply saying not everyone at the ground has the internet to sign the petition. Some don't care about the name change, granted, but just because you haven't signed a petition does not make you one of them.
